Comments Thread For: Sergio Martinez's Trainer Rips Manny Pacquiao, Cotto

[SaiZelion]

When Mayweather came back, he fought the consensus #2 P4P guy in JMM. His next fight, the consensus P4P #3 in Mosley. Both of those fighters were the next best P4P available after Pac. At the moment, Mayweather isn't available, and the next best P4P guy available is Martinez. Pac is promoted as an 8 division champion. He's currently the WBC 154 champ. Martinez is willing to challenge him for that belt. It makes no logical sense why the fight isn't happening. And furthermore, JMM is the next best P4P guy available behind Martinez. He's fought to two controversal results against Pac. And he's willing to fight Pac in the division where Pac is supposedly most comfortable. Yet, he's not fighting either and he's fighting a guy coming off a draw against a C level opponent. There's no way to defend the so-called P4P King at this point, unless of course you're willing to drink about a gallon of Pacjizz.

And the sad part is, some ******* will actually attempt to argue against the FACTS you just posted.

[Skills_Vs_Pills]

lol dont you think its obvious 154 is too big for manny? Look when flyod won the belt at 154 did he defend it?

no he didn't but the fact that he did it at the full jr middleweight limit says a lot more than pac fighting that bum plasterito at a catch-weight

[pasawayako]

LOL...the jmm fight.....do you not know the details of that fight that youre so proud it?......the shane fight was an ok win, floyd biggest at ww...lol

And floyd biggest win is only just a tune up fight of pac.

[hitking]

LOL...the jmm fight.....do you not know the details of that fight that youre so proud it?......the shane fight was an ok win, floyd biggest at ww...lol

I know all the details/excuses given by those residing in IHateMayweatherville surrounding the JMM fight. I know that Pacwh*res everywhere have convinced themselves that as a lightweight, JMM at least, if not one of the 2-3 best fighters of him era. And as a welterweight, he's one of the worst fighters in history. And in their mind's, it rationalizes Mayweather being able to come in after a two year layoff and toy with him while he gave Pac two life-n-death struggles. But here on planet Earth, that's ridiculous, and that's putting ti mildly.

[hitking]

And floyd biggest win is only just a tune up fight of pac.

Exaclty how did Mayweather manage do something Pac hasn't in 5 fights at or above the welterweight limit, and that's win the lineal welterweight title, if Mosley is his "only" good win in the division.

BTW, didn't he beat Mosley at a time when Tema pacquaio wanted no part of Mosley, not even at a weight drained 140???

[puga]

And floyd biggest win is only just a tune up fight of pac.

yup...........pac will outperform floyd again as usual....

[victorythagr8]

This is ****** beyond belief...

Why can't it be at 154? and fight like every other jr middleweight champion? Pacquiao can weight what ever he pleases. Sergio is not able to make 150 and he shouldn't. Remeber I told you that the last time Sergio made 150 you were still in dipers. I'm now beggining to wonder if I'm correct... It's a safer bet to say that you weren't born yet on 2003.

This would have never happened if Pacquiao wasn't a joke paper champion at 154.

who cares about 154 because pacquaio isn't fighting in that weight class.


Seriously no pac fan will support any fight at 154 because we all know pacquaio has no business in that weight class.

Everybody who supports Pacquaio vs Martinez.

Explain this quote from martinez.

"Manny Pacquiao is too small. It would be a mismatch. I don't believe that it will ever happen," said Martinez. "But Floyd Mayweather? Most likely, that would be a fight that we could make. He's a great fighter, and I would love to do it."
http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=33061

Everybody knows pacquaio is too small of a 154 fighter and please don't bring up size don't matter especially with the reach advantage.

Yes martinez in the past two years has fought better fighters but that is Martinez only 2 good wins compared to pacquaio's Hatton(if you are going to count pavlik then i guess i can count hatton), Cotto, Marquez, Barrera, Morrales, Lebdiwa. **** Pacquaio couldnt even make the 150 limit. And to me pacquaio is a 7 weight class champion and clearly number 1 or 2 at 147. But we all know 147 is his limit. Don't play ****ing ****** that he can even compete against the top 5 at 154. We all know you all have your dumb agenda's. Serious if you think Pacquaio vs Martinez would be a great fight....then i got ocean front property at Wyoming that i can sell you. Pacquaio would get badly hurt due to the fact he wouldn't be that good above 154. And please don't say size doesn't matter because it does. Because martinez would be bigger and is a skilled fighter that will use his size(unlike paul williams) that pacquaio won't have the power to hurt him at 154, and won't be handle any power punches by martinez. Its not like Martinez is anywhere close as skilled as marquez.


I tell you this. Martinez is older than pacquaio but yet he hasnt even accomplished 10% of pacquaio's achievenment or even went through the competition that pacquaio fought even though martinez resume is far worst than pacquaio and outside of Pavlik and Williams that he has nothing but bums in his win column.

[puga]

I know all the details/excuses given by those residing in IHateMayweatherville surrounding the JMM fight. I know that Pacwh*res everywhere have convinced themselves that as a lightweight, JMM at least, if not one of the 2-3 best fighters of him era. And as a welterweight, he's one of the worst fighters in history. And in their mind's, it rationalizes Mayweather being able to come in after a two year layoff and toy with him while he gave Pac two life-n-death struggles. But here on planet Earth, that's ridiculous, and that's putting ti mildly.

jmm at ww is crap , as evident in the floyd fight........what makes that match up worse is the obvious weight dispairty between them, not to mention floyd came in over the agreed weight....

[hitking]

And the sad part is, some ******* will actually attempt to argue against the FACTS you just posted.

That's a part of being a fanatic of an athletic in a very subjective sport. There's positives and negatives to everything involved in boxing.

Let's take the Margarito fight. A pro-Pacquaio person would say that if you look at The Ring magazine ratings (at the time of the fight), Margarito owned KO wins over three of the top four rated fighters at 154. An anti-Pacquaio person would say he was fighting a guy coming off a brutal KO loss to Mosley, who was coming off a lopsided loss to Mayweather and a draw against a C level opponent in Mora. Both have valid points, supported by facts.

That's why the debates in boxing will never in. Everything is based on emotion. If you like a guy, you view everything he does from a positive POV. If you don't, you view everything he does in a negative light. That's why nowadays, a fighter's historical significance is based more on popularity than accomplishment.

[puga]

Exaclty how did Mayweather manage do something Pac hasn't in 5 fights at or above the welterweight limit, and that's win the lineal welterweight title, if Mosley is his "only" good win in the division.

BTW, didn't he beat Mosley at a time when Tema pacquaio wanted no part of Mosley, not even at a weight drained 140???

floyd won his lineal ww vs baldomir....lol..a bum...shane was not the lineal champion when floyd beat him, only in your minds....