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  • #81
    Originally posted by WladIsTheChamp View Post
    The only racist over here is you, your b*tch @ss gets on every thread about Klitschkos and hates on them. I am a fan of the Klitschkos, what's your excuse? It takes a lot more effort to hate something, so what fuels your hate?

    I suspect it's because they don't look or act like your stereotypical US HW that you have in your imagination.

    Keep picking against the Klitschkos and you'll be wrong every time, looking like a fool. You are not even good at picking fights, picking Solis over Vitaly, LOL. Only a hating fool will make that pick. I bet you are picking Chisora over Wlad too, or praying for him.

    I know it makes hating idiots like you crazy to see two Ukrainian bros who also happen to be PhDs and speak 4 languages, dominate EVERYONE in the flagship division of boxing. You all know that they are GOATs and ATGs, and ech victory only cements their legacy and that drives you hating idiots crazy like b*tches in heat. While we the Klitschko fans enjoy seeing all of bamas squirm. Keep providing the entertainment!!!
    blah blah blah klits speak 4 languages blah blah they are the greatest thing since sliced bread blah blah blah.

    I don't give a **** if they have PhD's, I'm sure they are great guys in general but the fact is their legacy is mediocre. They do not have the resume's to be called the greatest of all time. Hell they don't even have the resumes to be top 10 all time heavyweights.

    And guess what me, most boxing fans, most experts, most people who knows boxing in general realizes the fact that resume is the most important thing. It doesn't matter how dominant you are when it's against mediocre opposition, it doesn't matter how many title defences, ko's, etc etc when it's not against any good opponents. Otherwise if it's all about stats guys like Zsolt Erdei would be one of the greatest of all time.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by flat1985 View Post
      Its very clear who the racist is here.
      Indeed. I have never seen WladIsTheChamp or Steelhammer give credit to african-american fighters or even non ethnic white fighters in general.

      I like plenty of white fighters. I have given massive respect to Carl Froch for example, who is white european and even of eastern euro descent so don't tell me I'm a racist. I'm of white european descent myself.

      I have read some guys say that Steelhammer gave them red and called them ******s and stuff like that, it's very obvious he is a hardcore neo-**** white supremacist.

      Most Klitschko fans are eastern european right, and eastern europe is infamous for being a racist hell hole where half the worlds neo-****s live so it doesn't suprise me in the slighest that the Klitschko fans are racist.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by Megamerican View Post
        blah blah blah klits speak 4 languages blah blah they are the greatest thing since sliced bread blah blah blah.

        I don't give a **** if they have PhD's, I'm sure they are great guys in general but the fact is their legacy is mediocre. They do not have the resume's to be called the greatest of all time. Hell they don't even have the resumes to be top 10 all time heavyweights.

        And guess what me, most boxing fans, most experts, most people who knows boxing in general realizes the fact that resume is the most important thing. It doesn't matter how dominant you are when it's against mediocre opposition, it doesn't matter how many title defences, ko's, etc etc when it's not against any good opponents. Otherwise if it's all about stats guys like Zsolt Erdei would be one of the greatest of all time.
        Yeah, you have a real eye for talent there, picking Solis over Vitaly. LOL

        When Erdei unifies and becomes undisputed, you let me know fool, then maybe your example will be valid.

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        • #84
          At this stage, there is no case for either Klitschko having a better resume than Holyfield. It's really that simple.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by Megamerican View Post
            Indeed. I have never seen WladIsTheChamp or Steelhammer give credit to african-american fighters or even non ethnic white fighters in general.

            I like plenty of white fighters. I have given massive respect to Carl Froch for example, who is white european and even of eastern euro descent so don't tell me I'm a racist. I'm of white european descent myself.

            I have read some guys say that Steelhammer gave them red and called them ******s and stuff like that, it's very obvious he is a hardcore neo-**** white supremacist.

            Most Klitschko fans are eastern european right, and eastern europe is infamous for being a racist hell hole where half the worlds neo-****s live so it doesn't suprise me in the slighest that the Klitschko fans are racist.
            Keep deflecting you racist, there is no reason for you to spend of so much of your time hating on the Klitschkos unless you were a racist. I know it's not anything outside of boxing that they have done for you to hate on them like that. I would understand someone hating on Mayweather because he such an egotistical ****** prick, but the Klitschkos? Especially with them winning all the time, there is no reason to hate unless you have some deep seated bias against them. Since you mention race all the time, my guess is you hate them because of their ethnicity/color.

            But hey, haters like you make this forum more fun. We Klitschkos fans can laugh at your dumb racist hating @sses after every Klitschko victory.

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            • #86
              I voted Klitschko.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by Steelhammer2011 View Post
                Let's look at some of Holyfield's losses and close fights:

                - schooled by Chris Byrd, who was destroyed twice by Wlad.

                - dominated by Larry Donald, who was knocked down 4 times and KTFO by Vitali (was the only man to knockdown and KO Donald).

                - stopped by James Toney, who was dominated by Peter, who was destroyed by both Klitschkos.

                - dominated by Sultan Ibragimov, who was dominated by Wlad.

                - beaten twice by overrated one hit wonder Rid**** Bowe, who was exposed and destroyed twice by Golota, who was KTFO by Lennox Lewis, who was dominated and retired by Vitali.

                - beaten twice by Lennox Lewis, who was dominated and retired by Vitali.

                - struggled and barely beat Ray Mercer, who was annihilated by Wlad (was the first man to knockdown and KO Mercer).

                - struggled and barely beat Vaughn Bean, who was destroyed by Vitali (was the only man to KO Bean).

                Co....
                Originally posted by Steelhammer2011 View Post
                Wlad and Vitali are the two most dominant heavyweight champs of all time.

                Wlad has 49 KOs in 55 wins.

                Vitali has 38 KOs in 41 wins.

                Holyfield only has 28 KOs in 43 wins.

                Holyfield has 10 losses, he lost too many fights, lost way too many rounds, had too many close fights and took way too much punishment in his career.

                Wlad >>>>> Holyfield

                Vitali >>>>> Holyfield
                Sign.....

                Brutal ownage.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by WladIsTheChamp View Post
                  Keep deflecting you racist, there is no reason for you to spend of so much of your time hating on the Klitschkos unless you were a racist. I know it's not anything outside of boxing that they have done for you to hate on them like that. I would understand someone hating on Mayweather because he such an egotistical ****** prick, but the Klitschkos? Especially with them winning all the time, there is no reason to hate unless you have some deep seated bias against them. Since you mention race all the time, my guess is you hate them because of their ethnicity/color.

                  But hey, haters like you make this forum more fun. We Klitschkos fans can laugh at your dumb racist hating @sses after every Klitschko victory.

                  I respect plenty of white fighters and have given cred to them plenty off times. I can't say the same about you and black fighters.

                  And I bring up race all the time? LOL, name a post except the one you just quoted where I brought up race.

                  The main reason I dislike the Klitschkos is because their ******ed fans who doesn't know **** about boxing, like you. If their fans wasn't so ******ed I wouldn't really care about them at all.

                  I put my points where my mouth is, I have betted almost all my points on Solis. Yeah I know he has a slim chance of winning... But I'm betting on him because of principle, I'll root for all of Klitschko's opponents to win.

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                  • #89
                    Holyfield hands down man.... He's got wins over bowe, Holmes, Tyson, 3 ATGs. in addition to these 3 great wins he also has mercer, moorer, qawi, Rahman, and others.

                    he's also a 4 time champ and definitely deserved the win against valuev.

                    Holyfield was way better then both klits and would totally smoke wlad, and with vitali it would be a war that came down to grit where Holyfield would probably win a decision.

                    Holyfield>Both klitschkos. Only delusional kilt fans can say otherwise.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by Megamerican View Post
                      I respect plenty of white fighters and have given cred to them plenty off times. I can't say the same about you and black fighters.
                      And I bring up race all the time? LOL, name a post except the one you just quoted where I brought up race.

                      The main reason I dislike the Klitschkos is because their ******ed fans who doesn't know **** about boxing, like you. If their fans wasn't so ******ed I wouldn't really care about them at all.

                      I put my points where my mouth is, I have betted almost all my points on Solis. Yeah I know he has a slim chance of winning... But I'm betting on him because of principle, I'll root for all of Klitschko's opponents to win.
                      GTFO, Have you ever seen all my posts b*atch? I was one of the first on here to lay blame on Abraham for the dirty shot against Dirrell and then later defended him when he had to get quit the Super Six. I don't have to defend myself against internet racists like you.

                      You are weak minded if you hate on some one just because of their fanbase.

                      "I'll root for all of Klitschko's opponents to win" - that's excatly why you are a hater, you have no rational basis to hate on the Klitschkos but yet you still do. I'll laugh at you when the Cuban gets destroyed and then again when the Zimbabwean gets destroyed.

                      Why don't we make this a little more interesting and make it 150K points between us. That way I can take your remaining points.

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