MAYWEATHER-MOSLEY Second Round....What REALLY Happened?

[Hi-Dro]

Mosley was tired during round 2, while Mayweather was rocked. Im sure Mayweather made some adjustments that certainly helped him dominate the rest of the fight, but Mosley was (amazingly) already gassed after that one attack.

he showed his lack of stamina again in his next fight, where he threw a disgustingly low amount of punches.

it was sad seeing Mosley doing an amateurish hand twirl and then throw a forced wild shot.

I take it you didn't watch the Mora fight? Learn some boxing homie


no pun intended

[Ray*]

I think Mayweather standing in front of Mosley threw mosley off, He couldnt get extension on his arm especially with his right hand, And i think he was mentally affected when he saw how Mayweather took his best shot and was still there.

[Ray*]

Cant get enough of this clip here, This is one of the reasons i watch boxing, Pure skills/Ring generalship.

[JDezi4]

Its one thing to give up when u have no answers and another to give up becuz its fixed

[Horus]

I have read many people saying different things. The fight was fixed. Mosley gassed out. Mosley is only a 2-3 round fighter now. Just today, I saw Bernard Hopkins say that Mosley "surrendered" once Floyd weathered the storm.

Let me preface by saying that Bernard Hopkins has more boxing knowledge in the gap between his teeth than I have in my whole body. But in this instance, I respectfully disagree. Hell, I disrespectfully disagree. Shane has never been more motivated for a fight in his life than he was for the Mayweather fight. Anyone you talk to would tell you he wanted it so bad. Maybe even TOO much.

Here is what I saw, and what I think happened:

Naazim Richardson had a plan to open up Floyd's guard. Remember, Floyd fights out of a modified Philly Shell, and Brother Naaz is a Philly trainer. The shell ain't no mystery to him. He has seen it plenty. BUT (and big "but") Naazim told Shane, 24/7 viewers and the world that those openings would close up quickly.

...and that is exactly what happened.

So, SPECIFICALLY, Shane would throw to Floyd's body, knowing that Floyd (and most shell fighters) react to every punch thrown. Floyd's intent is to get hit by ZERO punches. He is defensively-oriented that way. So when Shane throws the bodyshot, Floyd reacts and Shane IMMEDIATELY fires the follow-up right hand bomb up top. Not even a one-two. More like a one- one point five!! Shane tried it in round 1 (0.40 of the video below) and swung and missed so hard that he fell off balance. He then did it again in round 2 (1:40) and LANDED it. Shane even tried it AGAIN (at 2:55) but Floyd had D'd up.

Floyd got rocked by a hard, clean shot from one of the hardest p4p punchers of this generation. How hard does Shane hit? Shane knocked out Margarito with FAR fewer punches than Pacquiao (a great puncher) landed.

So Floyd made TWO adjustments:
1: picked up his left hand, and carried it near his head
2: ignored the weak jab to his body

After Floyd got past that rough patch, Shane AGAIN tried to throw that jab to the body. Floyd countered it with a hard two-piece upstairs.

If you listen to every interview Shane gave after the fight, he tells you: Floyd made great adjustments. Neither Shane (nor Naaz) saw any other openings. In fact, if you listen to what Brother Naazim told Shane in the corner in the middle rounds, "Shane, you keep looking for that perfect shot. There is none".

Here is round two.

Shane didn't surrender. He merely couldn't RE-adjust after Floyd made his adjustments.

@ 5:20, Shane explains that Floyd didn't "make the same mistake again"

Thanks in advance for the discussion.

GREAT THREAD!

Great Analysis
Great Argument
Great Transition Arguments
and Great job pointing out the facts as they were presented.

Great Thread.

[Gino Ros]

I take it you didn't watch the Mora fight? Learn some boxing homie


no pun intended

The guy who didn't know that Hopkins and Jones fought twice is now coaching people on Boxing knowledge?

[Horus]

The Opponents who really pushed Floyd to his limit were,

In order:
1. Jose Luis Casitillo
2. Ricky Hatton
3. Augustus
4. Jesus Chavez
5. Shane Mosley
6. Zab Judah
7. Demarcus Corely
8. Oscar De la Hoya
9. Phillip N'dou
10. Carlos Hernandez

In all of those fights, Mayweather defined his greatness by the adjustments he made, and the dominance he displayed. He is the class of his generation.

[Horus]

LOL you seem butt hurt for some reason. JMM got outboxed and styled on by floyd. IF he was stronger, faster, taller, blah, blah, blah, so many damn excuses. Just give Floyd his damn respect or lace up a pair of gloves and get in the ring. It's pretty easy for arm chair warriors to call someone a *****.

Yeah Pretty Much, Marquez is a great fighter but he would have lost to Mayweather at 130,135,140,AND 147 at no point in Marquez career would he would have been a problem for Mayweather.

[Squizz]

The Opponents who really pushed Floyd to his limit were,

In order:
1. Jose Luis Casitillo
2. Ricky Hatton

I'm not trying to argue here, but I thought the Hatton fight was essentially a lop-sided beatdown. Hatton didn't really land anything of substance, and Floyd was hitting him with flush shots all night. It was apparent from pretty much the forth round on, that Hatton wasn't going to land anything, and was going to get continually hit flush. I think Judah and ODH gave him tougher fights. That's just my opinion though.

[Squizz]

Yeah Pretty Much, Marquez is a great fighter but he would have lost to Mayweather at 130,135,140,AND 147 at no point in Marquez career would he would have been a problem for Mayweather.

Exactly. I laugh at how people try and make such a big deal about Floyd being the bigger man. (Mostly Pacquiao supporters.) It wouldn't have mattered one way or the other. The difference was in CLASS, not size.