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  • Darkstar
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    [QUOTE=IronMike*;9955720]In a lot of the Hopkins fights I have watched he tends to throw one or two punches than smothesr. Can anyone recommend me some fights were he stands in front of his opponents and exchanges punches without holding afterwards?

    Has he ever been in an exchanges like the ones in Toney-McCallum I?[/QUOTE]

    Never has never will. It was much to dangerous for him. Keep looking but only thing Hopkins fights had were the pot shot, clinch, foul fest, cheating type bouts. Against the lower level and smaller competition he would fight just a hair more. When faced with anybody decent, he shelled up. His epic trilogy with Robert Allan is what ATGs are made of.

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    • Gino Ros
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      That is also how mayweather will fight when he is older. He will be an inside fighter, and all of his fights will look like rounds 3-7 of the Hatton fight.

      Props to them for having skills to adjust to aging bodies...but it isn't appealing to the casual fan.

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        #13
        Originally posted by ИATAS206
        Obviously he's had to adjust his style as he's got older. This is just basic common sense. You cant expect a 40 something year old guy to sit in front of the opponent and trade blows.
        But he rarely did it during his elusive prime either
        Originally posted by ИATAS206
        The only guy that I can think of that does that is Glen Johnson.
        Toney as well
        Originally posted by ИATAS206
        Watch Hopkins fights when he was younger, he fought a lot differently.
        Against which opponents?
        Originally posted by ИATAS206
        But even when he's older, he smothers based on the style he's fighting. Against Pascal and Pavlik, he doesn't need to smother. Against Calzaghe he smothered because Calzaghe has such an extremely high workrate. Against Winky he smothered to take away Winky's best weapon which is his jab.
        he also smothered alot against Jackson and Lipsey. He rarely threw many punches against Jones

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          #14
          Originally posted by Darkstar
          Originally posted by IronMike*
          In a lot of the Hopkins fights I have watched he tends to throw one or two punches than smothesr. Can anyone recommend me some fights were he stands in front of his opponents and exchanges punches without holding afterwards?

          Has he ever been in an exchanges like the ones in Toney-McCallum I?[/
          Never has never will. It was much to dangerous for him. Keep looking but only thing Hopkins fights had were the pot shot, clinch, foul fest, cheating type bouts. Against the lower level and smaller competition he would fight just a hair more. When faced with anybody decent, he shelled up. His epic trilogy with Robert Allan is what ATGs are made of.
          I got around to watching their first fight the other day and its exactly how you described it, with a lot of smothering /fouling tactics

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            #15
            Originally posted by Gino Ros
            That is also how mayweather will fight when he is older. He will be an inside fighter, and all of his fights will look like rounds 3-7 of the Hatton fight.
            Do you think Mayweather will fight past 35? As for your second point I could see that happening if he carries on. Its shocking how much that guy has slowed down over the years watch Mayweather-Mosley then Mayweather-Corralles and you will ll be shocked
            Originally posted by Gino Ros
            Props to them for having skills to adjust to aging bodies...but it isn't appealing to the casual fan.
            I agree

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            • ИATAS
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              #16
              Originally posted by IronMike*
              But he rarely did it during his elusive prime either

              Against which opponents?
              Glen Johnson, Echols, Mercado, Trinidad, Pavlik, Pascal, most of his early fights.


              Toney as well
              pffft


              he also smothered alot against Jackson and Lipsey. He rarely threw many punches against Jones
              Jones didn't throw a lot of punches either but hopkins was trying to be the aggressor.

              I don't know what you're looking for hopkins isn't a brawler he comes from the school of thought of hit and don't be hit, although earlier in his career he certainly let his hands go more so then he did later in his career. People don't say he's one of the best defensive fighters for no reason

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                #17
                hopkins and exchanges don't compute

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by ИATAS206
                  Glen Johnson, Echols, Mercado, Trinidad, Pavlik, Pascal, most of his early fights.
                  Have to watch that fight again. But the above kind of reinforces my earlier point, he only lets his hands go against limited come forward punchers
                  Originally posted by ИATAS206
                  pffft

                  I see spots-Bernard Hopkins
                  Originally posted by ИATAS206
                  Jones didn't throw a lot of punches either but hopkins was trying to be the aggressor.
                  Neither were trying to be the aggressor, which is why that fight was so dull
                  Originally posted by ИATAS206
                  I don't know what you're looking for hopkins isn't a brawler he comes from the school of thought of hit and don't be hit, although earlier in his career he certainly let his hands go more so then he did later in his career.
                  Neither Toney or Mccallum are brawlers, but that didnt stop them from getting into exchanges
                  Originally posted by ИATAS206
                  People don't say he's one of the best defensive fighters for no reason
                  After Toney, Hagler and McCallum

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                  • Darkstar
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by IronMike*
                    Have to watch that fight again. But the above kind of reinforces my earlier point, he only lets his hands go against limited come forward punchers


                    I see spots-Bernard Hopkins

                    Neither were trying to be the aggressor, which is why that fight was so dull

                    Neither Toney or Mccallum are brawlers, but that didnt stop them from getting into exchanges

                    After Toney, Hagler and McCallum
                    This was the must see pic for Sports Illustrated boxing section. Were they pointed out all of boxings problems. Its an embarrassment really.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Darkstar
                      This was the must see pic for Sports Illustrated boxing section. Were they pointed out all of boxings problems. Its an embarrassment really.

                      Ive been trying to forget that fight. One of the worst fights I have ever watched. Out of interest what problems did SI list?

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