Not trying to sound racist

[jtiger78]

tyson was the last boxer my race has supported on a large scale but people in general dont support boxing anymore...

[Ray*]

Boxing just isnt that much popular anymore in general, And America has more role-model from more high profile sports than boxing, American are spoilt for choice while other sport only have one or two choices, That why they cling on to one sport star for dear life and live their lives through them, Am sure american have 100 hundreds of star that they look up to from different sport.

[studentofthegam]

Boxing has fallen off big time in the US since it went off network television but if you look at the top fighters by demographic you will see that African Americans are by far get the worst fan support when it comes to live gates.

I don't think that it's as much that black people have gone away from the sport, I think white people are the ones that have gone away. Like I said earlier in the past it was usually white faces in the crowd when the major fights went on involving black fighters.

Having said that there still has to be some big drop off when it comes to AA supporting their fighters. I remember Pettway vs. Brown had a lot of AA in the crowd in the mid 90's. Also Holyfield vs. Vaugh Bean had a lot of AA in the crowd when they fought in Atlanta in the late 90's.

Right now outside of Floyd Mayweather there ain't an AA that can draw flies to ****.

Its not a lot of white fighters than have a following either. Boxing is a sport where there is always gonna be a select few who are really backed by big followings. There are many mexican boxers but only a few can pack out the MGM Grand. As far as the gate, Its cheaper to have a fight party and order pay per view. The price of those tickets are astronomical. Most black people i knew in the early 90's either didnt have cable or wouldnt dare pay 50 dollars unless three families went in on it. Maybe thats just my circle. Maybe we should bring major boxing events back to A-town Georgia because I know a lot of black people would support.

[Gino Ros]

Why would that sound racist?

People in America are too afraid to speak about racial topics, positive or negative.

Well, what makes it racist is that he feels that black people can only support black fighters.

What makes him ****** is that he doesn't know the difference between they're and their.

[Gino Ros]

Boxing has fallen off big time in the US since it went off network television but if you look at the top fighters by demographic you will see that African Americans are by far get the worst fan support when it comes to live gates.

I don't think that it's as much that black people have gone away from the sport, I think white people are the ones that have gone away. Like I said earlier in the past it was usually white faces in the crowd when the major fights went on involving black fighters.

Having said that there still has to be some big drop off when it comes to AA supporting their fighters. I remember Pettway vs. Brown had a lot of AA in the crowd in the mid 90's. Also Holyfield vs. Vaugh Bean had a lot of AA in the crowd when they fought in Atlanta in the late 90's.

Right now outside of Floyd Mayweather there ain't an AA that can draw flies to ****.

Blacks represent 13% of the US population. They are not a big enough demographic to carry a sport.

Do you feel that less than 13% of the dollars (gate plus ppv) spent on boxing come from AA households? I'd like to see your data, please.

[Gino Ros]

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Boxing has fallen off big time in the US since it went off network television but if you look at the top fighters by demographic you will see that African Americans are by far get the worst fan support when it comes to live gates.

Can I see your data, pls?

[Gino Ros]

I remember watching the Ndou fight in his hometown of Grand Rapids and he could only draw around 2K..

Were you on meth?

Your data is just wrong.

[_original_]

If Bradley and Alexander were Latino they would sell out any venue (NY, Vegas, Cali, Miami, ect.)

But I still know a lot of American black dudes who support and love boxing, they just don't get all crazy like other ethnicities about fighters.

[Instinto]

It's true that AAs don't have much following. Even japanese and canadian boxers can easily fill arenas with 20k people. Fighters like Dawson have to travel to Canada, because nobody cares about him in US and Pascal can fill arenas. UK boxers also have big support: David Haye selling 800k PPVs, Hatton bringing 30k people to LV and even young guy like Khan is damn popular. All latinos have big fan base, boring Klitschkos are huge stars in Europe.

Floyd also wasn't draw until he fought Oscar De La Hoya here his PPV numbers before

Floyd Mayweather-Zab Judah: 350 000
Floyd Mayweather-Carlos Baldomir: 340 000
Arturo Gatti-Floyd Mayweather: 360 000

Roy Jones jr PPV numbers

Roy Jones-Felix Trindad - 500,000
Roy Jones-Anthony Hanshaw: 24 000
Roy Jones-Antonio Tarver III: 405 000
Roy Jones-Antonio Tarver I - 305,000
Roy Jones-John Ruiz - 602,000
Roy Jones Jr-Eric Harding: 125 000

Well even Roy Jones didn't have much fan base.

[mrpain81]

Blacks represent 13% of the US population. They are not a big enough demographic to carry a sport.

Do you feel that less than 13% of the dollars (gate plus ppv) spent on boxing come from AA households? I'd like to see your data, please.

I'm not talking about carrying a sport.

I'm talking about the ethnic groups going out and supporting their fighters, Hopkins who is one of the best fighters of the last 20 years can't even have good ticket sales in his home town.

From the fight cards I have been to which have been over 30 I would say that yes there are less then 13% AA in the audience. The fights I've been to are mostly west coast though, boxing in the US has become concentrated to the west coast for the most part now. The east coast fight cards have dried up, it's not like when Tuesday night fights was going on doing a lot of east coast shows going to the blue horizon in Philly a lot.

PPV breakdown by ethnicity your guess is as good as mine. Unless u have the data to show otherwise I would think it's the same as the people who go to the shows. HBO was saying they have lost the AA audience and are trying to get it back.

But ratings for HBO’s live fights have been disappointing. And HBO CEO Bill Nelson is said to be particularly troubled by the fact that, in recent years, African-American viewership of HBO Sports programming has dropped significantly beyond the drop for other demographic groups.



Nelson rarely gets involved with the sports department budget but, this year, he has. Sources say that, on September 16, 2010, HBO Sports President Ross Greenburg made a presentation to the CEO and outlined a plan to raise ratings among African-American viewers. Greenburg’s suggestions included the idea that HBO spend more money on advertising and promotion targeted at the African-American community. But Nelson is a numbers guy and wary of simply throwing more money at problems.

http://www.maxboxing.com/news/main-l...ing--part-one1
[QUOTE=Gino Ros;9959959]

Can I see your data, pls?

Andre Berto
Chad Dawson
Paul Williams
Steve Cunningham
Tim Bradley


All top ranked fighters without a home where they can sell tickets.

The % of talented AA fighters to the % of guys who can draw is really disproportionate. If people don't see that they just want to look the other way.