Bowe vs. Lewis???

[guru]

also bowe was not overweight in his fight with golota, he had hired a physical trainer and was in great shape... here is a link to bowe's weight against holy and golota, both times he weighed 235, so there goes that excuse

http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=000499

http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=004345

[kapersky]

ok so your basing your opinion of bowe on one fight?? that's fine...

i'm looking at bowe's entire career.. this thread is about bowe vs lewis.... bowe faced mostly second rate opposition in his career and ducked not only lewis but every big puncher... lewis is a more complete fighter, harder to hit and i think that bowe is way overrated off his good, but one performance, against a much smaller guy, who fought the wrong fight and then proved it by avenging the loss.....

no i am basing on how he fight that fight against holyfield he had stamina to be the greatest no doubt. but he didnt had heart and discipline to do so. btw what do do you mean smaller guy?, holyfield is not small, he weight low but he is from body up as big as bowe. size doesnt matter and holyfield even if he smaller he is not a bad boxer infact one of the greatest of all time.

[guru]

bowe had significant height and reach advantages on holy.... also, holy is not a big puncher, but had bowe out on his feet...

bowe looked great against holy, but lewis is an entirely different fighter... lewis wont rumble with bowe on the inside like holy did in that one fight... i dont know if stamina is one of bowe's weaknesses, but i'd say that his crappy defense is...

[guru]

and the "lack of heart and discipline" excuse is weak, i've already proved that he was in shape when he was getting his ass handed to him

[catskills23]

Bowe whips any version of lewis . Bowe beat prime holyfield, lewis nearly lost to an old well past his prime holyfield . So therefore logic tells me that prime bowe whips prime lewis , throw in lewis chin and lewis lasts about 3 rounds at most .

[guru]

funny how people say holy was old and past his prime when he fought lewis, but holy was the favorite going into the fight and had just beaten tyson twice and KO'd moorer.... not to mention lewis was 34 when they fought, so he wasnt a spring chicken either...

[oldgringo]

funny how people say holy was old and past his prime when he fought lewis, but holy was the favorite going into the fight and had just beaten tyson twice and KO'd moorer.... not to mention lewis was 34 when they fought, so he wasnt a spring chicken either...

Holy's skills were clearly diminished. He was coming off those nice wins but he was definitely on the downside of his career. Lennox was entering his second prime at that point IMO.

I think, if I can only look at 1 version of Lewis and 1 version of Bowe...that Bowe would beat Lewis in a close fight. That's basing it off the Bowe that fought and beat Holy and the Lewis that fought and punished Tyson/Rahman. I can definitely see Lewis beating Bowe too however because we only got to see Bowes best for 1 fight. Still, IMO Bowes best form was better than Lewis' best form.

[guru]

i disgree cause its basing bowe on one night against holy, when holy was fighting the wrong fight.... bowe never showed that again in his entire career, cause you cant count all the bums he fought....

also about holy and lewis, i agree holy wasn't in his prime, but he wasn't an old dinosaur, like some people are trying to say.... holy was the favorite to win and he just beaten two multi-time world champions.. he looked just as good beating tyson and moorer then at any time in his career....

[kapersky]

Holy's skills were clearly diminished. He was coming off those nice wins but he was definitely on the downside of his career. Lennox was entering his second prime at that point IMO.

I think, if I can only look at 1 version of Lewis and 1 version of Bowe...that Bowe would beat Lewis in a close fight. That's basing it off the Bowe that fought and beat Holy and the Lewis that fought and punished Tyson/Rahman. I can definitely see Lewis beating Bowe too however because we only got to see Bowes best for 1 fight. Still, IMO Bowes best form was better than Lewis' best form.

i cant say it better, a prime bowe surely beat a prime lewis, prime bowe would beat prime lewis 2/3times. and holyfield first fight vs lewis he wasent old, lewis just got his number. lewis is definitly one of the greatest.

and the "lack of heart and discipline" excuse is weak, i've already proved that he was in shape when he was getting his ass handed to him

bowe went up a lot after the fight and went down before the fight, it effect his stamina because of weight lost, its like roy jones vs tarver he went down from heavyweight to light heavy weight and jones got ko.

[Colonel Jones]

Something to think about. Had Lewis went through three wars with Evander Holyfield like Bowe did, He might have been slurring his words like Big Daddy Bowe some ten years later. Although i respect what Lewis did, I don't think he had the heart that Bowe showed against not only Holy but Golata as well. Of course Lewis will go down in history higher than bowe, but i think it is due more to his better training ethic and overall common sense, more than it has to due with his natural ability. Bowe had alot of natural talent, just wasted the **** out of it. Of course that's not to uncommon of a story in boxing is it?