Why do people (klitschko fans) choose to forget?

[da beatdown]

All Haye is trying to do is live off of what K2 has built in the HW division. You dont show up to a conference with a T-shirt of severed heads and then back out multiple times. Haye is a hype job,he knows it himself. If Vlad agreed to 7/2 then leave it at that until something happens to prove otherwise, like an injury or Chisora actually winning.While it would be a fascinating fight on paper WE ALL KNOW HOW THIS ONE ENDS! We've seen it about 55 times already. "And Still"........

[Dirk Diggler UK]

All the people who are calling haye a ducker and so forth because haye has pulled out of the first fight with wlad and negotiations with vitali...why do you choose to forget the ridiculous stipulations the brothers were asking for?

This time is not the same as last...haye made the right decision to fight valuev, at the end of the day it got him some parity in the negotiations and the brothers have since realised haye brings way more money then them to the table thus why they have now agreed to a 50/50 which is fair, one guy brings the money and the other is the number 1. Many of you have conveniently forgotten they were asking for options on his future fights and a 3 running rematch clause, and way lower than a 50/50 split, lol it is pretty laughable that anyone can put the blame definitively on either camp. Not to mention the first fight arranged with wlad, setanta went bankrupt a couple of weeks before the fight, so he wouldn't have got paid at all, unless another network came in last minute and lets be frank would have made a real low ball offer at such a late stage, if any at all.

Wlad is an idiot with his comments, he has no good excuse for not taking it this time he says he doesn't trust haye not to pull out again, but it is complete bull because like I have stated above, the last negotiations compared to these are night and day, his excuses are lame he just wants to gain an advantage by making haye stay inactive for a long time, this fight would never happen july 2nd Wlad knows this it was a duck because he himself didn't want to come in unprepared despite what he says. He has reduced himself to calling Haye childish names like a ****ing 12 year old. "Loser liar", ha what kind of **** is that. He keeps saying Haye is lying about his retirement, is he trying to convince himself? I think he will stick to it, and Wlad slates Haye's resume, but who has wlad beat? He doesn't have one legacy fight! He hasn't beaten one guy that I could confidently say...yeah that guy is a world class heavyweight.

I think both guys are world class and tbh they need each other equally, anyway I thought id mention a few points that people seem to be missing especially towards Haye.

Yeah the stipulations were so ridiculous that Haye signed the same 3 options deal with Sauerland. Go figure.

[Rick Grimes]

Because Wlad is a man of his word, Gayevid is not. As his multiple lies prove, including his retirement lie, in case you forgot, Gayevid said that he always planned to retire at 30, now it's 31 all of a sudden. He also said he'll never fight Fraudley, lo and behold, he fought Fraudley. Said he first bet on the fight, then said he didn't. Said he would knock out Valuev. You seem to excuse Gayevid's lies as simple business decisions, so if Gayevid can so easily back out of negotiations and out of a signed fight at the last moment as he has shown in the past, why is Wlad going to trust him this time? It was smart for Wlad to take a fight in April, if Gayevid was a man and still wanted to fight Wlad, he would fight an interim fight like Wlad and then fight Wlad in July 2nd. But Gayevid is not a man, he is a vagina.

It isn't 31, he's planning on retiring before his 31st birthday in october.

[BUMBOJOHNNY]

I don't know how your able to talk let alone type with those Klit nuts in your mouth. Vladischump has got to be the worst person writing stuff on this site. I shouldn't waste my time even writing this but you really deserve a pizza face.!!!!!!!!

[The Hammer]

I don't know how your able to talk let alone type with those Klit nuts in your mouth. Vladischump has got to be the worst person writing stuff on this site. I shouldn't waste my time even writing this but you really deserve a pizza face.!!!!!!!!

Another STEELHEAD alt.