Comments Thread For: Bernard Hopkins: Black Fighters, We Are Built Differently

[thebowtod]

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[Tamis!]

So Bhop's sayin' indirectly that he didn't work hard and trained all his life to get to the level where he is right now?

Is he saying genetics alone can do it without hardwork and dedication?

[IMDAZED]

Shelling up quick today? Right to the insults. Keep fighting it, I understand.

Is this not true. Are some parts of Africa at the same level as the rest of the world was 1000s of years ago?

Not even to mention the absolute disparity of a time line comparison.

You're probably not aware of this but...so are a lot of places in the world, including inside first world countries. You're also probably not aware that not everyone wants a PS3. But please, carry on.

[Darkstar]

I'll explain in a rational way.

People who are builders, creators, creatives, have a specific kind of intelligence. It's an intelligence you are unable to value. Jazz was invented by black people, along with rock & roll, and most of modern music, but you don't pay much attention to any of that.

Before that, the pyramids were invented in Egypt and built. Building and creative intelligence is not the same as destructive or war intelligence. Africans were good and are good at builting stuff, and being creative, designing cultures, and at inventing tribal forms of government.

The Native Americans were good at this too, they protected the earth, they were better with the land, and better at governing themselves. The difference is, they were not aggressive and good at war. Egyptians if you look, they never were a major military force, the Romans always had a better military. If you look at Africa, Africa was never the military might of the world, it was always Europe.

The culture of Egypt was extremely religious and people built pyramids as a religious act. The tribes in Africa had no concept of war, and the concepts they had were absolutely nothing like what Europeans had. In African tribes, they were waging wars which usually was more like a ritual, where the strongest of the tribe, usually just 2 people, would fight 1 on 1 and that would settle it. Sometimes it would be a few people, but they'd all fight 1 on 1, there was no concept of organized war on the scale you think of, thats why they used spears.

The difference was Europeans came in with guns, which were hundreds of years more advanced in war technology. At this time the Africans were hundreds of years more advanced in governing techniques and in diplomacy, most of their problems were solved through rituals, many Africans thought wars were to be faught in a ritualized and fair way, but Europeans came in with guns and there was nothing fair about it.

This happened because Europeans got the gun first, thats all. The same happens with Native Americans, they had a federal government, a federation of tribes, and they had the land all divided up and everything worked out to have years if not centuries of peaceful conflict resolution, then some new people came in with guns and all they had was bow and arrow, they did not have the WEAPONS technology.

The Africans and Native Americans had language, both had music, both had culture, both had clothing, both had housing, both had water, food, government, they had all they needed to live off the land for hundreds of thousands of years, and were invaded by another culture.

Europeans developed weapons because they were used to fighting, and moving, and it was in their culture to conquer. The Chinese who you say were so smart ,and who invented gun power for fireworks, got invaded and conquered by the British. Why? Because the Chinese built a wall to hide from the barbarians on the outside, they didnt know how far ahead of them Europeans were, or about guns until it was too late, by the time they started using gunpowder to make guns, Europeans had cannons.

The only thing that mattered was which group of people were the best warriors. I'm guessing JB is a warrior himself. Someone like JB would have conquered many people, and then after ruling over them, claim them all to be inferior. It's might that decides who is intelligent and who isnt, it's decided by military might. So right now it's obvious that Europeans are the most intelligent, because they conquered the world to prove it, but this does not mean the Europeans were as good at building civilizations as the Egyptians or the Native Americans, I mean hell, why do you think black people were chosen to build the USA?

It's one thing to build guns, it's another thing to build railroads and entire cities. Yes white people can build too, but slavery certainly made it cheaper.
What can we learn from Egyptian / African culture and Native American culture? How to be sustainable and last for over 5000 years. How to build civilizations which won't collapse or destroy and pollute the earth.

I'm not saying Egypt or Native American civilizations would never collapse, I'm simply saying we can learn from these long lasting old civilization styles, Native Americans had decentralized government before the western world knew what it was, and Egyptians and Africans had socialism before the west knew what that was.

Basically, all the stuff we do now, was done back then under different names. If we study ancient society we can learn a lot. Sure, study Rome, study the Greeks, but also study Egypt, and also study African tribes, and Native tribes. It can only help you to take the best ideas humans have invented and apply them regardless of what bodies these ideas came from. If they work, use them.

This was the closest thing you stated that was true. I would say much more then hundreds of years more advanced. Looking back then and today, looks to be more like thousands.

Im sure Africans were hundreds of years ahead of us in diplomacy and governing techniques. Even though many white civilizations were light years ahead in every important aspect of life. What happend to such advancement in this area. Forget about after we left, why still to this very day in 2011, is Africa the most lawless, anarchy ridden, dangerous, dirty, unorganized area known to man?

[IMDAZED]

This was the closest thing you stated that was true. I would say much more then hundreds of years more advanced. Looking back then and today, looks to be more like thousands.

Im sure Africans were hundreds of years ahead of us in diplomacy and governing techniques. Even though many white civilizations were light years ahead in every important aspect of life. What happend to such advancement in this area. Forget about after we left, why still to this very day in 2011, is Africa the most lawless, anarchy ridden, dangerous, dirty, unorganized area known to man?

I almost feel bad for you dark but then I realize that there are some people who are woefully ignorant, and others happily ignorant. You fall into the latter category. And I just remembered why I stopped talking to you last time. You are too dumb to accept anything other than your own ******ity. So wallow in it and believe it. You do anyway.

[Darkstar]

You're probably not aware of this but...so are a lot of places in the world, including inside first world countries. You're also probably not aware that not everyone wants a PS3. But please, carry on.

In the whole world, this is true. But even you have to admit, is occurs so much less then in Africa. Not true on first world countries. Canada, US, England etc have too many government placed rules, aids and welfares. To not allow you to slip back into the mud huts. They will provide free government housing. Though I could say it was possible if left without such first world charity.

Back to being bizarre with the PS3 comment.

[Darkstar]

I almost feel bad for you dark but then I realize that there are some people who are woefully ignorant, and others happily ignorant. You fall into the latter category. And I just remembered why I stopped talking to you last time. You are too dumb to accept anything other than your own ******ity. So wallow in it and believe it. You do anyway.

Im not stating much other then a few facts. Your posts involve opinion.

[sigrab jr]

Darkstar is racist as hell

[IMDAZED]

Im not stating much other then a few facts. Your posts involve opinion.

Like I said...You are too dumb to accept anything other than your own ******ity. So wallow in it and believe it. You do anyway.

[Gino Ros]

why still to this very day in 2011, is Africa the most lawless, anarchy ridden, dangerous, dirty, unorganized area known to man?

And who was running this group of lawless countries until the mid - 20th century?