Comments Thread For: Bernard Hopkins: Black Fighters, We Are Built Differently

[Cash Cow]

This is the sport where genetics really does come in. If Hopkins read any kind of book or done any research he'd site long-distance running.

Well, in this case it's a point of genetics and running at high-altitude.

Africa is at a HIGH altitude?

[Cash Cow]

Egypt is also extremely close to the middle east(or Western Asia), and also connected to it. People dont just instantly change the second you get onto a continent.

In reality, Egypt was not exclusively black or middle eastern, it was a big mix up of both races.
Because of the positioning of Northern African areas along the Mediterranean, there has always been a large amount of racial mixing and diversity due to the fact that sailing was one of the best forms of travel in ancient times, and the Mediterranean links together Europe, Asia Minor and Africa.
Much more racial diversity than say in central Africa.

Ancient Egyptians were indeed Black Africans. Archaeologists have discovered, by examining their cranial structure, that they were a mixture of what we would today consider Black and Arab. They were mostly Black. The Greek were not Egyptians, they did not even arrive to Egypt until mid 300 BC, well after the Pyramids which were built around 2500 BC. Many Egyptians of today are also black but what we see in the media are the "whiter" Egyptians whose are a mixture of many races. Yes, they are Egyptians because they have been there for generations but they are not the descendants of the ancient Egyptians who were Black. If you look at the features of the Modern North Africans such as the Somalians and Ethiopians, you will see that have facial structure very similar to the Egyptians in the hieroglyphics. You don't have to have a wide nose and stereotypical "Negroid" features to be Negro. There are many groups of Africans who do not fit the stereotype. People just readily categorize all Africans with the ones from Congo. Some scientists have even gone as far as to try and classify North Africans as "Caucasoid" because they defy the scientific definition of "Negroid" which is not defined by skin color but by facial (cranial) structure. It’s just an attempt to dissociate Egypt and North Africans with so called "Sub-Saharan" Africa and whiten the Ancient Egyptians. But even common sense tells you that they were Black. Sudan is Egypt's neighboring country and it is no question that the Sudanese are Black. A few miles to the north, however, and the Africans miraculously are no longer Black

[Gino Ros]

BTW, the idea that someone can run 6.2 miles in 26 minutes is INSANE to me.

That is 6+ miles at under a 4:30 pace. How many elite athletes can run ONE mile in 4:30?

[Gino Ros]

What race was Anwar Sadat?

[ma51f]

why does everything come down to race/color??

[brick wall]

so if the early egyptians were black africans and indeed responsible for building those beautiful pyramids...what happened to them after that? why did they let other races conquer their lands and get pushed away to other parts of africa? and in their new lands, how come they did not bring with them their creativity?

[Cash Cow]

so if the early egyptians were black africans and indeed responsible for building those beautiful pyramids...what happened to them after that? why did they let other races conquer their lands and get pushed away to other parts of africa? and in their new lands, how come they did not bring with them their creativity?

I'll explain in a rational way.

People who are builders, creators, creatives, have a specific kind of intelligence. It's an intelligence you are unable to value. Jazz was invented by black people, along with rock & roll, and most of modern music, but you don't pay much attention to any of that.

Before that, the pyramids were invented in Egypt and built. Building and creative intelligence is not the same as destructive or war intelligence. Africans were good and are good at builting stuff, and being creative, designing cultures, and at inventing tribal forms of government.

The Native Americans were good at this too, they protected the earth, they were better with the land, and better at governing themselves. The difference is, they were not aggressive and good at war. Egyptians if you look, they never were a major military force, the Romans always had a better military. If you look at Africa, Africa was never the military might of the world, it was always Europe.

The culture of Egypt was extremely religious and people built pyramids as a religious act. The tribes in Africa had no concept of war, and the concepts they had were absolutely nothing like what Europeans had. In African tribes, they were waging wars which usually was more like a ritual, where the strongest of the tribe, usually just 2 people, would fight 1 on 1 and that would settle it. Sometimes it would be a few people, but they'd all fight 1 on 1, there was no concept of organized war on the scale you think of, thats why they used spears.

The difference was Europeans came in with guns, which were hundreds of years more advanced in war technology. At this time the Africans were hundreds of years more advanced in governing techniques and in diplomacy, most of their problems were solved through rituals, many Africans thought wars were to be faught in a ritualized and fair way, but Europeans came in with guns and there was nothing fair about it.

This happened because Europeans got the gun first, thats all. The same happens with Native Americans, they had a federal government, a federation of tribes, and they had the land all divided up and everything worked out to have years if not centuries of peaceful conflict resolution, then some new people came in with guns and all they had was bow and arrow, they did not have the WEAPONS technology.

The Africans and Native Americans had language, both had music, both had culture, both had clothing, both had housing, both had water, food, government, they had all they needed to live off the land for hundreds of thousands of years, and were invaded by another culture.

Europeans developed weapons because they were used to fighting, and moving, and it was in their culture to conquer. The Chinese who you say were so smart ,and who invented gun power for fireworks, got invaded and conquered by the British. Why? Because the Chinese built a wall to hide from the barbarians on the outside, they didnt know how far ahead of them Europeans were, or about guns until it was too late, by the time they started using gunpowder to make guns, Europeans had cannons.

The only thing that mattered was which group of people were the best warriors. I'm guessing JB is a warrior himself. Someone like JB would have conquered many people, and then after ruling over them, claim them all to be inferior. It's might that decides who is intelligent and who isnt, it's decided by military might. So right now it's obvious that Europeans are the most intelligent, because they conquered the world to prove it, but this does not mean the Europeans were as good at building civilizations as the Egyptians or the Native Americans, I mean hell, why do you think black people were chosen to build the USA?

It's one thing to build guns, it's another thing to build railroads and entire cities. Yes white people can build too, but slavery certainly made it cheaper.
What can we learn from Egyptian / African culture and Native American culture? How to be sustainable and last for over 5000 years. How to build civilizations which won't collapse or destroy and pollute the earth.

I'm not saying Egypt or Native American civilizations would never collapse, I'm simply saying we can learn from these long lasting old civilization styles, Native Americans had decentralized government before the western world knew what it was, and Egyptians and Africans had socialism before the west knew what that was.

Basically, all the stuff we do now, was done back then under different names. If we study ancient society we can learn a lot. Sure, study Rome, study the Greeks, but also study Egypt, and also study African tribes, and Native tribes. It can only help you to take the best ideas humans have invented and apply them regardless of what bodies these ideas came from. If they work, use them.

[MIAMI CANE]

At the bottom of race ****, is the fact that white men worst fear is there wife/girlfriend is ****ing a black man.

[Sweet Jesus]

why does everything come down to race/color??

Because we are all animals.

[Cash Cow]

so if the early egyptians were black africans and indeed responsible for building those beautiful pyramids...what happened to them after that? why did they let other races conquer their lands and get pushed away to other parts of africa? and in their new lands, how come they did not bring with them their creativity?

LOL were ancient egyptians white? FIRST There was no white around until 2000 B.C and the first white didn't came to egypt until 330 B.C That was the greeks. I know many of you would like to call the persian whites but they are not. They were a mixed race so was the assyrians. Even if they might be lighter than some people. The first form of white looking people that came on the seen where the Amorites, nobody know of their origin. Some say they came from arabia it's unlikely they more likely came from armenia or southern part of russia. They are what modern arabias came from. Assyrians were a mixture of them both with a lil black in them. Then the hittites were kinda of a white race they didn't came on the seen until 12 Century B.C. So right there you know the egyptians cilivization have been around for more than 3000 yrs. The only thing white contribute to egyptians society was the demolishing of it. The destruction of the temples,and their statues. The white didn't care about other people culture they just devour it and that's the same way your people did to the native americans. Not to mention the mexicans, the central americans, and south americans. West indians, everywhere white people go they just messup things for good. The same way with the white mongolians arabs. they are no better than their cuzin the europeons. They have a low self esteem for other culture. No white people contribute to black society other than the fact they destroyed it!