Comments Thread For: Arum: Pacquiao Has Face Someone With Mosley's Skill

[iNDOLiFER]

Props for effort, but that guy can't hear you, his problem is obvious.....

see what happens when black people get mad... LOL!! they start posting up ***** that have nothing to do with this.. its their way of running away.. kinda like what floyd is doing.. oops!!

[LeadUppercut]

watch the name calling broham! so why are u so against this fight then? of all the *****s you're one of the top that makes so much commnets about how bad manny is.. so why would this be an easy fight for a guy that sucks so bad as u put it????

I'm not really "so against" this fight.

I just see it for what it is, a continuation of the same clever match-making that has largely manufactured Pac's career.

It just cracks me up to hear you/Arum/Koncz, attempting to stick up for Shane..... I thought you were all Manny-fluffers?

Now Shane's your boy?

Yes, Manny has flaw's alright, but Shane will not exploit them, and you are well aware of that.

Marquez at 140? Well, he may have been able to.

But Mayweather?

[iNDOLiFER]

I'm not really "so against" this fight.

I just see it for what it is, a continuation of the same clever match-making that has largely manufactured Pac's career.

It just cracks me up to hear you/Arum/Koncz, attempting to stick up for Shane..... I thought you were all Manny-fluffers?

Now Shane's your boy?

Yes, Manny has flaw's alright, but Shane will not exploit them, and you are well aware of that.

Marquez at 140? Well, he may have been able to.

But Mayweather?

another example of what happens when a black person gets mad... i never said shane was my boy. Im not trying to make shane out to be like he's in his prime or that he's the best right now.. Of course im rooting for manny to win but i also have to be real here and i can respect shane for what he's accomplished. In boxing, anything can happen.

Is it so hard to believe that manny might have an off night or shane might just be able to catch manny slipping. Why is it so hard to believe that theres a possibility that shane can pull this one off?? I mean come on manny has no defense right? Manny literally just walks into punches right?? Manny's foot work is sloppy right? So why wouldnt shane be able to exploit these weakness of manny??

U spend all your time talking down about manny but now that manny is going to fight shane all of a sudden manny is gonna win?? So now manny's your boy? LOL

[| THE KING |]

Again, the point is, Manny has no business losing to Shane Mosley at this point in their respective careers. None. And...I don't expect him to.

Yet, if he loses.. you say this:

"Shane isn't going to pull those performances out of his trunks and if he does against Manny, I guess that shows us where Manny is."

You say this fight is a given for Manny, implying Manny to be the much better fighter at this point in their careers. Yet, you contradict yourself and say that if Manny does indeed lose this fight, it 'shows us where manny is'. Forget the fact that Manny is already a certified ATG..

Floyd's defense is a better than Manny's. But that doesn't change the fact that Manny has a beard on him! Especially since he has moved up, he has taken some big shots and that hasn't slowed him down (which has ppl su****ious). Shane's speed won't bother Manny, not at all. You will actually see Manny counter Shane with that right hook. Add to the fact that Shane has never been a huge one shot knockout artist in his career. If Shane lands something big on Manny, I expect Manny to slap his gloves together and beat Shane to the punch and hit him alot the remainder of the fight.

How many times in boxing has a fighters beard failed him? Chins get cracked all the time.. add to the fact, Manny has been down before.. he isn't untouchable. I do see Manny winning this fight via UD/TKO.. however Mosley is a big puncher and anything can happen in boxing.

The point, Manny has no business losing to Shane at their point in their respective careers. None. But, I thought you would have picked up on what I was getting at.

I have already stated that Manny should beat Shane. As I had stated in my previous replies to you.. Shane has been out of his prime for sometime now.. prior to the Mayorga fight. Styles make fights.. remember? And Manny doesn't have the style to leave the ring unscathed. Hell, even Floyd got hit with some bombs..

Just pointing out your contradicting statement in regards to Manny being the heavy favorite.. yet if he loses.. it 'shows us where Manny is'. All ATG's have taken L's and are still considered part of the elite.. Manny is no exception. Most already know Manny sits among boxings elite and a loss to a big puncher doesn't change what Pac has already accomplished in his career.

[Dale Cardon]

Arum is always contradicting himself. I am not surprised nor excited anymore with anything he says.

[chiguy91]

"this fight is a joke! mosley's gonna choke!"
haha, heard that the other day...
but seriously this fight will not be interesting,maybe the first 2 or 3 rounds, then pac will take over.
pretty funny to see two scumbags (arum & koncz) trying to persuade people mosley is still good.

[IMDAZED]

Props for effort, but that guy can't hear you, his problem is obvious.....

His head is stuck up Manny's ass, not his own.

[iNDOLiFER]

His head is stuck up Manny's ass, not his own.

ehh i guess thats better than having floyds nutts in your mouth LOL...

[V.WEBB]

Yet, if he loses.. you say this:

"Shane isn't going to pull those performances out of his trunks and if he does against Manny, I guess that shows us where Manny is."

You say this fight is a given for Manny, implying Manny to be the much better fighter at this point in their careers. Yet, you contradict yourself and say that if Manny does indeed lose this fight, it 'shows us where manny is'. Forget the fact that Manny is already a certified ATG..

I guess you missed this quote of mine, in response to richardt, because he said the same thing as you.

Again, the point is, Manny has no business losing to Shane Mosley at this point in their respective careers. None. And...I don't expect him to.

Anyways, yea, it would show us where he is...now. Read what I said about their "respective careers" (see above). I put an emphasis on that and my previous post. If he somehow happened to lose to Shane now that doesn't take away from him being a "certificated ATG".

How many times in boxing has a fighters beard failed him? Chins get cracked all the time.. add to the fact, Manny has been down before.. he isn't untouchable. I do see Manny winning this fight via UD/TKO.. however Mosley is a big puncher and anything can happen in boxing.

How many times has Manny's beard failed him is a better question. Based on what I have seen what both fighters as of late, I'm led to believe that Manny's chin won't get cracked by Shane. No one said that Manny was untouchable, that much is given. However, based on what we have seen from Shane in the last year, he hasn't show me ANYTHING (beside landing 2, I repeat 2 punches in one round) that he will beat Manny.

I have already stated that Manny should beat Shane. As I had stated in my previous replies to you.. Shane has been out of his prime for sometime now.. prior to the Mayorga fight. Styles make fights.. remember? And Manny doesn't have the style to leave the ring unscathed. Hell, even Floyd got hit with some bombs..

Yea, they sure do makes fights. Any, nothing in Shane's style that I can see will trouble Manny come May of this year. Shane is a brawler. That plays right into Manny's hands. I never said that Manny wouldn't be scathed, but don't think it will be an all out war because he will simply be too much for Shane. Manny's workrate out the gate is going to keep Shane shaking and flinching, watch.

Just pointing out your contradicting statement in regards to Manny being the heavy favorite.. yet if he loses.. it 'shows us where Manny is'. All ATG's have taken L's and are still considered part of the elite.. Manny is no exception. Most already know Manny sits among boxings elite and a loss to a big puncher doesn't change what Pac has already accomplished in his career.

See, this is the misconception that you have and I see that it hit a nerve, so I'll address it again like I did above, I'm not trying to "take away from Manny's achievements" based on what I said about if he lost we would see where he is. If you read what I said in context, you would understand that I'm talking about where he is in his career now. Hence the reason I kept saying, "at this point in their respective careers", "Manny has no business losing to Shane at this point in his career", etc.

Anyways, I have kids to train. I'm gone.

[LeadUppercut]

another example of what happens when a black person gets mad... i never said shane was my boy. Im not trying to make shane out to be like he's in his prime or that he's the best right now.. Of course im rooting for manny to win but i also have to be real here and i can respect shane for what he's accomplished. In boxing, anything can happen.

STOP !!

So.....

Now, Mosley is your boy..... and now, I'm black ?

Really ?

Ful me, I'd better go ring my mom, she's gonna **** herself

FYI, I don't live in the states dude. I'm a kiwi, we do not support any form of racial intolerance, so I have many dark-skinned / asian friends.

Buddy, you don't actually have very much in the way of credibility right now, don't burn what little you have left by turning this into a race issue.

Hopkins (who is my boy) came across as a little ignorant to me with his "black fighter" comments. I cannot technically disagree with his comments, but he would have been more correct to say "slick/fast/athletic/skilled"..... but I took his point, and he was correct.

And when you fall back on your "In boxing, anything can happen" excuse, you are simply blindly accepting the choice of a clearly well-faded shopworn opponent.

And you are mistaken, I am not upset at all..... this is an honestly issue, and it involves Pac-fan's, so my expectations were always extremely low.

Is it so hard to believe that manny might have an off night or shane might just be able to catch manny slipping. Why is it so hard to believe that theres a possibility that shane can pull this one off?? I mean come on manny has no defense right? Manny literally just walks into punches right?? Manny's foot work is sloppy right? So why wouldnt shane be able to exploit these weakness of manny??

Stop being so ignorant. Do you truly have no actual boxing experience at all?

U spend all your time talking down about manny but now that manny is going to fight shane all of a sudden manny is gonna win?? So now manny's your boy? LOL [/B]

So, just because I pick a winner, that fighter becomes " my boy " ?

I'm not really sure what you meant there ?

JMM is my boy, but he has little chance against Pac at 147, so you somehow think that Manny becomes " my boy " ?

Sorry, I am not that favorable toward fighters with manufactured and possibly fraudulent resume's, even if they may be deemed to be the red-hot favorite.

It is as funny as hell, to hear you, Arum, and Koncz, all falling over yourselves frantically trying to defend Shane Mosley

TIP: An honest boxing fan, would call it how it is, but a Manny-fan, would attempt to justify a clear mis-match - just as you have done previously in a discussion that you and I had about Pac/JMM at 147. Remember? That was exactly the same issue, and you took exactly the same stance..... defend Manny at all costs, then when it gets too hot, move to another thread.