Admit It People, Manny Pacquiao Has Been Reduced To Fighting Mayweathers Scraps

[The Gambler1981]

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Sure.

But, I refuse to blame Berto for him not getting the fight. Does he need to step up his competition, yes he does. But we would be fools to think that he did NOT want to fight Manny this year as opposed to Shane fighting him.

Berto certainly wanted it, he is at the stage now where he needs the fights and that fight would be the quickest way to the top of the sport.

I wouldn't blame Berto either since all he did was get mentioned, he could have done more to put himself in a better spot to demand a fight but there were always going to be other better options for this current fight.

Hopefully Berto does some things so that the next time Manny needs an opponent he will be the first they call on but that would require a lot of work and I don't even know if the guys exist for him to really drive demand like that.

[The Gambler1981]

Mosley gets this shot because of economics. I mean, has he done anything recently to deserve a big bout except lose and look bad? Is that what it takes? Well if that's what takes then no, Berto didn't deserve the fight.

That could be what it takes.

Economics + a high probability of success=Happy Bob Arum

[BlowMe!]

It's no secret that Freddie "The Joke Coach" Roach waits for fighters to be ruined before letting Pac fight them, but this is getting ridiculous.

First Floyd defeats Oscar handily and right after Manny swoops into fight him.

Then he DESTROYS Hatton and leaves him a shell of his former self in the most brutal KO of the year (which may or may not have caused Ricky's well documented stuggles with obesity and drug abuse) only for Manny to set up a fight with the broken man right after.

And now he's preparing to fight Shane "My tooth hurts and i need a vacation" Mosley, the same man who Floyd just decimated for 12 rounds straight less than 8 months ago.

It's facts like these that make me think Team Pacquiao are a group of cowards who refuse to face fighters at their peak. While Floyd steps up like the champion he is and faces these fighters while they're still threats, Manny plays the background until Floyd softens them up for him. That's not how great fighters operate which is why Floyd is looked at as the greatest fighter of his era while Pacquiao and his mouth piece Freddie "The Joke Coach" Roach will be forgotten about in 10 years.

so De la hoya and Mosley were at their peak when Floyd fought them? I'll let you have Hatton b/c he was undefeated at the time, but he wasn't fighting in his best weight class, which is cool, cuz he challenged Mayweather so it's only fair he meets Mayweather at 147. But ur not being fair to Pac's entire career more like the last 2 years, and why not throw in the names of guys that Mayweather never fought that Pac did at welter? oh right, i forgot that would make you a fan rather than just a f-ggot.

look at this with a little perspective. De la hoya....would you not take that fight? Hatton was the champ at 140, he challenged Pac and Pac did what he's paid to do. Cotto is Top Rank so that's all that matters there. Clottey is a fill in, even though he's no slouch in my eyes (but I don't wanna get into that here). Margarito's Top Rank, what else you wanna know? Mosley, I'm sorry homes but Mayweather didn't ruin Mosley, only you think that. Since when has arguably one of Floyd's best wins become pac's worst opponent? what is that a back handed compliment? you even hearing urself nicca?

[Khalid X]

Where's the excuse? Given Manny's track record of late, there is NO definite that Manny would have fought Berto instead of Shane had Shane lost to Berto.

Berto should have beaten Mosley to find out....but I see you want to pretend Berto is a victim or something.

[jrosales13]

Baldomir, Clottey, prime/faded any version of Judah are all on the same level.

Judah has the most talent of the 3 but is the biggest mental midget out of the and the most inconsistent.

Clottey has the best skills out of the 3 but is a mental midget. He has consistency in finding a way to lose. He just not a winner, he is a born loser in a way.

Baldomir, has the better intangibles out of the 3 but by far the least skilled and talented fighter out of the 3 and by a wide margin.

To bicker over who is better out of the 3 is quite ridiculous IMO. Since they belong in the same level.

LOL @ Fucking Baldomir being on the same level of a Margarito or Cotto.

[Horvo]

2008-2011

PBF- Marquez, Mosley

Pac- Marquez, Diaz, de la Hoya, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, Mosley

[The Gambler1981]

LOL @ Fucking Baldomir being on the same level of a Margarito or Cotto.

Yea Baldomir was better than the version of Margarito Manny fought it is laughable that anyone would put them on the same level.

I told you before I never viewed Margarito as anything special and looking at his career I feel correct.

[pistol whip]

Yea Baldomir was better than the version of Margarito Manny fought it is laughable that anyone would put them on the same level.

I told you before I never viewed Margarito as anything special and looking at his career I feel correct.

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[fdotorres]

I would take the first two line as a negative not a positive~ the fact that Clottey was able to push Cotto like that means Cotto is not really that great. the fact that Clottey could not take advantage of that horrible gash makes him no one of note.

Manny fans love themselves some Arum hype, if you want to impress me come up with your own thoughts.


As for Floyd's issues with women they are well documented.

how convenient. you missed the whole part where i stated that cotto, clottey AND margarito are bigger challenges than bumdomir and the dude bumdomir had just lost to

[Dale Cardon]

It's no secret that Freddie "The Joke Coach" Roach waits for fighters to be ruined before letting Pac fight them, but this is getting ridiculous.

First Floyd defeats Oscar handily and right after Manny swoops into fight him.

Then he DESTROYS Hatton and leaves him a shell of his former self in the most brutal KO of the year (which may or may not have caused Ricky's well documented stuggles with obesity and drug abuse) only for Manny to set up a fight with the broken man right after.

And now he's preparing to fight Shane "My tooth hurts and i need a vacation" Mosley, the same man who Floyd just decimated for 12 rounds straight less than 8 months ago.

It's facts like these that make me think Team Pacquiao are a group of cowards who refuse to face fighters at their peak. While Floyd steps up like the champion he is and faces these fighters while they're still threats, Manny plays the background until Floyd softens them up for him. That's not how great fighters operate which is why Floyd is looked at as the greatest fighter of his era while Pacquiao and his mouth piece Freddie "The Joke Coach" Roach will be forgotten about in 10 years.

Yup, I agree Pac has been fighting floyds scraps. Who can deny that fact... and he is doing a better job in demolishing them.

By the way, he is also fighting all top notch WW warriors that floyd refuses to fight.