A simple question for Pacman fans.

[Bushbaby]

So if Manny beats Shane then goes on to beat Floyd or Berto......wouldn't you say he cleared out the division?

Please answer this question with either a yes or no.

Of course,U tryin to make it sound like I just hate the guy,he was 1 of my favorites until Clottey & Margarito in a row & now Mosley,clearly cherrypicking.

How is that?

Fighting Mosley doesn't erase his FOTD, 3 FOTY awards, 4 lineals in 4 weight classes and the other countless achievements of his career.

You really sound like a hater bro.

Yeah,I bet U'd claim that,he also was awarded fighter of the year by the ring this year,do U agree with that??

[Jack Napier]

How is that?

Fighting Mosley doesn't erase his FOTD, 3 FOTY awards, 4 lineals in 4 weight classes and the other countless achievements of his career.

You really sound like a hater bro.

yes, he revealed his bitterness with that line :laugh:
he never provided any names either
waited for the other guy to name a single one, then cheerleaded it
that's a Milton tactic when he's backed into a wall w/ no answers :laugh:

[jrosales13]

not for nothing...but a *** load of Pac fans have beeen saying it on here over and over again and making threads over and over. That ******ed **** Pullcounter for one.

Exactly,I really don't like to call names & throw **** out there like that but he sure did.

Pullcounter is an idiot and he doesn't speak for all Pac fans. Don't generalize all Pac fans cuz' 1 douche or others of his ilk mentioned something ******.

I don't speak for all Pac fans. But, I am a Pac fan and I am against the Mosley fight. I have said plenty of times that is garbage. And, Pac only options is Berto at 147 or Bradley at 140. Granted if he losses to Alexander in Jan that option is gone. But, I expect Bradley to fully win that fight.

Hell I have gone as far as to say Bradley has a chance against Pac. I would favor Pac but I think Bradley at 140 has the best chance out of everybody from 147 and below to beat Pac not named Mayweather. Besides Floyd and Tim nobody at 147 and below has a shot to beat Pac IMO. But, Pac should fight the best available 147 fighter who happens to be Berto.

Just don't generalize Pac fans. And, I know more Pac fans hate the Mosley fight. Either put SOME in the title or mention names.

me three, who said that?

Apparently all us Mexicans said that

You should hook up your favorite Mexican poster(Me of course ) with another billion that is like chump change to you.

[Bushbaby]

wait up lil man, I'm a pac fan period, but you aint got no quotes on me, I aint ever said none of that sh-t lol.

But i'll answer your question any damn way.
Clottey: top rank affiliated, check
Margarito: top rank affiliated check (i should be getting paid for this wisdom)
Mosley: (this one's my favorite) more or less told GBP/Oscar to f-ck off, haha, cha-ching!

Marquez should of got that fight with Pac, unless he really did ask for double what he got in losing to Mayweather, that's just silly talk, homie.

Berto....he could've got that fight, but can we really say he fought anybody?

Bradley, that's a good fight, but he's scheduled to fight alexander, what date is that? maybe they should've waited it out, or maybe they wanted to get set with promotions, ask arum.

And u aren't all of his fans,don't worry about it if it doesn't apply,but on a serious note,Ur post was great.But what I got from it was top rank,kept the money inhouse to him & his fighters to control,so it was indeed all about the cash,thanks for clearing it up.No different than Floyd then.

[ADP02]

According to Pacman fans,Marquez needs to beat Khan & Berto to fight Pacman.Bradley needs to beat Alexander,Khan & Berto to fight Pacman.Berto needs to beat anyone a Pacman fan deems necessary to fight Pacman.

I'd like to believe that Pacman is a fair dude,like his fans always say,so since ya'll always say what the above mention needs to do,please tell me what Clottey,Margarito & Mosley have done lately to merit a fight with the pfp king,thank U!!

At 147-150, how many fighters do you see demolishing those 3? I mean, if these fighters, that you think of, is so obvious then they should clearly beat Clottey,Margarito & Mosley. Right?

These 3 belong at that weight category. Marquez and Bradley are not. They should prove it before fighting Manny at 147.

Oh, I'm saying this and taking into consideration what people like Manny haters would say if Manny fights and beats Marquez or Bradley at 147. The haters would say, ya, sure, face them smaller fighters that have proved nothing at 147.

But maybe you want Manny, the 147 champ to come down to 135 or 140?

[Bushbaby]

Pullcounter is an idiot and he doesn't speak for all Pac fans. Don't generalize all Pac fans cuz' 1 douche or others of his ilk mentioned something ******.

I don't speak for all Pac fans. But, I am a Pac fan and I am against the Mosley fight. I have said plenty of times that is garbage. And, Pac only options is Berto at 147 or Bradley at 140. Granted if he losses to Alexander in Jan that option is gone. But, I expect Bradley to fully win that fight.

Hell I have gone as far as to say Bradley has a chance against Pac. I would favor Pac but I think Bradley at 140 has the best chance out of everybody from 147 and below to beat Pac not named Mayweather. Besides Floyd and Tim nobody at 147 and below has a shot to beat Pac IMO. But, Pac should fight the best available 147 fighter who happens to be Berto.

Just don't generalize Pac fans. And, I know more Pac fans hate the Mosley fight. Either put SOME in the title or mention names.



Apparently all us Mexicans said that

You should hook up your favorite Mexican poster(Me of course ) with another billion that is like chump change to you.

Just for U because I really respect Ur knowledge.

[Khalid X]

Of course,U tryin to make it sound like I just hate the guy,he was 1 of my favorites until Clottey & Margarito in a row & now Mosley,clearly cherrypicking.

See I simple asked for a yes or no response, but you just can't answer with throwing some hatin @ss comments in there.

I don't get why you asked questions when your mind is set on Manny being a cherry picker etc. If that's you opinion....fine, but why spam everyday with the same nonsense.

Yeah,I bet U'd claim that,he also was awarded fighter of the year by the ring this year,do U agree with that??

Pac wasn't awarded FOTY for 2010, what are you talking about?

They will do the voting later on and more than likely that award will go to Sergio Martinez.

[Bushbaby]

See I simple asked for a yes or no response, but you just can't answer with throwing some hatin @ss comments in there.

I don't get why you asked questions when your mind is set on Manny being a cherry picker etc. If that's you opinion....fine, but why spam everyday with the same nonsense.



Pac wasn't awarded FOTY for 2010, what are you talking about?

They will do the voting later on and more than likely that award will go to Sergio Martinez.

I suggest U read the ring Magazine version again.They said they gave it to Manny,even though Martinez had an amazing year bro.

That's what I love about U,It's always ok to say if he does it next time,but even when I tell u of course,if he beat them,U find more **** to complain about.Guess what kid,he could have killed all that by beating Berto in May,but instead they chose Mosley,period.

[| THE KING |]

How is that?

Fighting Mosley doesn't erase his FOTD, 3 FOTY awards, 4 lineals in 4 weight classes and the other countless achievements of his career.

You really sound like a hater bro.

Exactly! People tend to forget that Manny established his legend in the lower weight classes. :lo1:..

[Khalid X]

I still can't understand the hate.

By the end of the year, Manny would have faced

DLH, Cotto, Margarito, Clottey, Mosley and either Floyd or Berto since moving from LW to WW.

If Martinez hopped to SMW and beat:

Froch, Taylor, Kessler, Abraham, Dirrell, Johnson, and Bute what would you say?

Not only beat those guys, but completely dominated and TKO a few of them.

Would you look at the fact that he pretty much fought the top guys at a weight most thought he would never fight at, or would you say:

Taylor = shot
Kessler has an eye injury and is done as a fighter
Dirrell isn't the same since the Abraham KO
Johnson is an old man who lost to Cloud
Froch is an overrated British hype job
Bute hasn't fought anyone