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  • BillyBoxing
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    #61
    Originally posted by PrinceNaz88
    Of course Wlad and Vitali are going to be ranked higher at the moment than Haye. I'm sure all Haye fans realise that.

    Doesn't mean Haye won't knock them out though does it?

    If Haye is so poor, I don't understand why Wlad wouldn't want to finish the Haye saga once and for all. If it so much of a mismatch, why not come to England, make a hell of a lot of money, and knock out Haye infront of his home crowd. What is stopping Wlad?
    Maybe because Haye pulled out twice?

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    • cklmaced
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      #62
      Originally posted by -Tunney-
      Stop repeating Haye's lies.

      Haye was never "undisputed" cruiserweight champion! He ducked the IBF titleholder, Steve Cunningham.

      Haye had only two world title fights at cruiserweight, against fighters who had been KOed before.

      Cunningham would have boxed the ears off the Gayemaker.
      How could he duck him when he lost to Adamek he got floored 3 times and Haye hits harder then Adamek so your just reaching for an excuse to try make Haye look bad. Why didnt Cunningham try unify the division himself since he was champ before Haye was.

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      • PrinceNaz88
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        #63
        Originally posted by BillyBoxing
        Maybe because Haye pulled out twice?
        So why even bother negotiating to start with then????????

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          #64
          Originally posted by -Tunney-
          Stop repeating Haye's lies.

          Haye was never "undisputed" cruiserweight champion! He ducked the IBF titleholder, Steve Cunningham.

          Haye had only two world title fights at cruiserweight, against fighters who had been KOed before.

          Cunningham would have boxed the ears off the Gayemaker.
          The same Cunningham who was knocked down by Troy Ross and losing to Ross before a cut saved him.

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            #65
            Originally posted by OptimusWolf
            I thoughth showed up well (Ruiz) in that fight. he also got jobbed v Valuev imo and had an equal claim to a win vs Chagaev. I don't buy him being washed up by the time he fought Haye. Sure he's not great but not a tomato can lke harrison or Albert sosnowski.
            Lol at you comparing Harrison and Sosnowski. Sosnowski would KO Harrison, badly.

            Don't try to make the Ruiz win look good for Haye, the only fight Ruiz had won in the last 2 years was against Adnan Serin (who?).

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            • intoccabile
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              #66
              Originally posted by OptimusWolf
              That is a ridiculous call, putting haye below fighters like Dawson, Khan, kotelnik, Clottey, Maidana, Adamek,Mora(!), Angulo, Johnson, Cunningham, the list goes on. Haye should be around no.20. This is a guy who cleared out cruiserweight and has won a title and KO'd Ruiz (a decent fighter) at HW.
              Both adamek and cunningham were in the division, he didn't clear out cruiserweight.

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                #67
                Originally posted by cklmaced
                How could he duck him when he lost to Adamek he got floored 3 times and Haye hits harder then Adamek so your just reaching for an excuse to try make Haye look bad. Why didnt Cunningham try unify the division himself since he was champ before Haye was.
                He did try. He called Haye out for 2 years.

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                • cklmaced
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by intoccabile
                  Both adamek and cunningham were in the division, he didn't clear out cruiserweight.
                  By that logic neither Klit can ever be undisputed champ since they will never face each other

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by cklmaced
                    By that logic neither Klit can ever be undisputed champ since they will never face each other
                    Vitali will retire sooner or later, Wlad could then face whoever wins the WBC belt after it becomes vacant, hopefully it's someone braver than Haye and agrees to a unification.

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                    • cklmaced
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Pirao
                      Vitali will retire sooner or later, Wlad could then face whoever wins the WBC belt after it becomes vacant, hopefully it's someone braver than Haye and agrees to a unification.
                      Haye already did agree here i think this joke explains most Wlad's crazed fans on here.

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