Haye Fans...I Know You Are Ignorant, But K2 Are Trying to Force Haye vs. Vitali

[Die Antwoord]

How the hell do you guys not see this. Haye says, "i want wlad", K2 says, "you can have either bro." Haye says, "I want wlad." K2 says, "Youre afraid of Vitali" Haye says, "I want wlad July 2nd" K2 "Wlad will fight 9 weeks before, we will see if hes ready, Vitali is fighting 4 months before, he'll be ready." Haye- "I want Wlad" K2 Wlad will fight tomasz in september as well, Vitali wants to fight early July after he works that Cuban fat ass"

How do people not pick up on whats happening. For whatever reason the klitschko's want Vitali to face Haye. Haye wants no piece of Vitali. But thats what the Klitschko's want. The negotiations should have ended there, but Wlad went through with them, most likely knwoing if he could settle on a price, a date and other things then he could be like "ok, but its not me, its the big vit." Its pretty obvious.

So yeah, Maybe Wlad is "ducking" Haye. (dont know how you can duck someone who has pulled out of contracts with you etc...), but Haye is blatantly ducking Vitali no doubt about it.

[paulf]

How the hell do you guys not see this. Haye says, "i want wlad", K2 says, "you can have either bro." Haye says, "I want wlad." K2 says, "Youre afraid of Vitali" Haye says, "I want wlad July 2nd" K2 "Wlad will fight 9 weeks before, we will see if hes ready, Vitali is fighting 4 months before, he'll be ready." Haye- "I want Wlad" K2 Wlad will fight tomasz in september as well, Vitali wants to fight early July after he works that Cuban fat ass"

This is actually fairly accurate haha.

[2Fast]

Haye wants the undisputed champ wladimir who is in his prime.

I agree that they are pushing for a haye - vitali fight. So you must agree wlad is scared right?

[Joeyzagz]

Wlad shouldnt even be ranked in the top 70 heavyweights all time. Ive never seen a more cautious overprotected ***** than Wladimir. He is nothing without his brother...scared b.tch

[WladIsTheChamp]

How the hell do you guys not see this. Haye says, "i want wlad", K2 says, "you can have either bro." Haye says, "I want wlad." K2 says, "Youre afraid of Vitali" Haye says, "I want wlad July 2nd" K2 "Wlad will fight 9 weeks before, we will see if hes ready, Vitali is fighting 4 months before, he'll be ready." Haye- "I want Wlad" K2 Wlad will fight tomasz in september as well, Vitali wants to fight early July after he works that Cuban fat ass"

How do people not pick up on whats happening. For whatever reason the klitschko's want Vitali to face Haye. Haye wants no piece of Vitali. But thats what the Klitschko's want. The negotiations should have ended there, but Wlad went through with them, most likely knwoing if he could settle on a price, a date and other things then he could be like "ok, but its not me, its the big vit." Its pretty obvious.

So yeah, Maybe Wlad is "ducking" Haye. (dont know how you can duck someone who has pulled out of contracts with you etc...), but Haye is blatantly ducking Vitali no doubt about it.

Kind of makes sense when you put it this way. Especially from a business standpoint, Wlad stepping in with Haye, the Klitschko family is risking 4 belts versus Vitaly risking 1 belt, hey some freak injury or lucky punch can happen. Especially knowing that if by some miracle Haye does win, he'll retire and not take another fight with a Klitschko, kind of like Lewis did. If this is their plan, well played, Haye still looks like a ducker and coward to everyone if he doesn't fight a Klitschko and if he does fight Vitaly and wins by injury (no lucky punch there), the Klitschkos still have 4 belts in the family and it would be easy to pick up the rest because I doubt Haye will run the gauntlet and fight two Kltischkos, especially before October.

[Joe2608]

Wlad is No. 1 in the division but Vitali is the better fighter. Wlad is blatantly passing him on to Vitali.

[Nuurzhaelan]

How the hell do you guys not see this. Haye says, "i want wlad", K2 says, "you can have either bro." Haye says, "I want wlad." K2 says, "Youre afraid of Vitali" Haye says, "I want wlad July 2nd" K2 "Wlad will fight 9 weeks before, we will see if hes ready, Vitali is fighting 4 months before, he'll be ready." Haye- "I want Wlad" K2 Wlad will fight tomasz in september as well, Vitali wants to fight early July after he works that Cuban fat ass"

How do people not pick up on whats happening. For whatever reason the klitschko's want Vitali to face Haye. Haye wants no piece of Vitali. But thats what the Klitschko's want. The negotiations should have ended there, but Wlad went through with them, most likely knwoing if he could settle on a price, a date and other things then he could be like "ok, but its not me, its the big vit." Its pretty obvious.

So yeah, Maybe Wlad is "ducking" Haye. (dont know how you can duck someone who has pulled out of contracts with you etc...), but Haye is blatantly ducking Vitali no doubt about it.

That is probably the most salient and poignant observation right there. Wladimir is NOT afraid. I do not pretend to know what he is doing, but he is NOT afraid of haye.

[ИATAS]

so Haye challenges Wlad and the response is "go fight Vitali" who just so happens to have a mandatory fight in Solis? yeah, ok.

Sorry, but the Klitschko's aren't a single entity. They are two seperate people. Wlad owns multiple belts and most importantly, the ring belt. Vitali is a title holder.

Haye vs Wlad is the fight people want and if that's the fight Haye wants he has that right.

the Klits shouldn't respond to Haye's challenge of Wlad with "go fight the brother!"

type of **** is that?!

[paulf]

That is probably the most salient and poignant observation right there. Wladimir is NOT afraid. I do not pretend to know what he is doing, but he is NOT afraid of haye.

I don' think either of them are afraid, but their egos have kept them from making the fight. If Wlad really wanted it, he wouldnt have entered negotiations with Adamek and Chisora within 24 hours of agreeing to terms with Wlad.

Maybe Vitali thinks that Haye has a chance, so he'd rather Wlad not fight him. I understand that's his brother and he wants to look out for him, but Wlad is unified champ. Vitali has already had his glory against Lewis; restoring his name against an ATG heavyweight despite the loss. David Haye is no Lennox Lewis, but Wlad-Haye would probably be a career-defining fight for both guys.

[Nuurzhaelan]

I don' think either of them are afraid, but their egos have kept them from making the fight. If Wlad really wanted it, he wouldn't have entered negotiations with Adamek and Chisora within 24 hours of agreeing to terms with Wlad (haye?).

Maybe Vitali thinks that Haye has a chance, so he'd rather Wlad not fight him. I understand that's his brother and he wants to look out for him, but Wlad is unified champ. Vitali has already had his glory against Lewis; restoring his name against an ATG heavyweight despite the loss. David Haye is no Lennox Lewis, but Wlad-Haye would probably be a career-defining fight for bothguys.

No, I get ya. I don't really mind if Wlad is getting out of the fight (if it *IS* his fault...these things have a way of turning around with just a fraction of extra detail) because of ego or contempt for haye. What I DO mind is that people seem to think Wladimir is trepidacious simply because he is (in my view) telling haye to go screw himself. The way I view it is that he is screwing with haye in a fashion reminiscent of the way haye did to him. haye had signed a contract with Wladimir and then bailed on the fight. So, Wladimir agrees to a fight with haye and then angles to get a fight in April to mess with haye.

Leading up to this the overwhelmingly popular mantra was that haye needs a Klitschko; they don't need him. Now, because of how this played out, suddenly Wladimir, in the myopia of haye fanatics and the British media, is ducking haye and never wanted any part of the fight. This is why I highlighted the portion of the post I did with commentary and why I am now responding to you. In essence, I agree that what you wrote and the post I quoted, and I don't care that Wladimir might be messing with haye. After all the crap he pulled, *I* think haye deserves this. It was a nice opportunity to give the longbowmens' fingers to the haye supporters.