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whats really funny, is that you shy away (chicken-out) from these conversations and hide as a Not-Logged, because I and/or we exposed the truth that many blacks have cheated with steroids.
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no one is mad, cause I exposed the fact that many blacks cheated with Steroids when they fought Mexicans.
whats really funny, is that you shy away (chicken-out) from these conversations and hide as a Not-Logged, because I and/or we exposed the truth that many blacks have cheated with steroids.Last edited by Mayas; 01-07-2011, 07:01 PM. -
in my opinion, dirrell beat froch & abraham. dirrell is an elite & have proven himself against the best of that division. dirrell in fact would give ward the most trouble & a nice chance at beating him. cunningham is elite....if you can't understand that cunningham's A proven cruiserweight who have ruled the divison for a while now I have no words....Comment
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Who cares???
Maybe americans have better training, style, and juice (shout out to Roy,Mosley,Toney and Holyfield).
It's not about being mexican or black, mexicans come from a third world country, they don't have the same means, and they have a style easy to outbox, but more balls...
BTW, eastern europeans in this new era almost always batters afro americans when they fought them...almost embarassing
still an interesting question huh??Comment
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Hold up you think Ward, Dirrell, and USS are elite but not Montiel? They have proven themselves but Montiel has to prove himself against Donaire?
I respectfully disagree with all that. Montiel is more proven than those 3. And, if those 3 are elite than Montiel is also.
Anyways this whole subject is idiotic.
Both SRR and Armstrong(2 of possibly the top 5 greatest fighters of all time from any race or nationality) lost to Mexican fighters. Whitaker last fight was against Mexican in a fight that he had to retire due to an injury. Vargas beat Winky. Rafa beat Too Sharp who should and probably will be in the HOF. And, Too Sharp after 2 Rafa losses, beat Montiel.
So yes there has been Mexican fighters who have beat top African American fighters. And, there has been African Americans who have beat Mexicans fighters. There has been Puerto Ricans who have beat both and vice versa. There are Europeans who beat all of a Amercian continent and vice versa. Include Asians, Africans and Aussies. This whole subject is just ******.Comment
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the thing was that Chavez was better at picking his shots than most anyone else. you had to put him on defense with volume of punches. Roger Mayweather also tried what you said in their second fight but was just too beat up toward the end to continue, because he couldnt nullify Chavez's offense and got exhausted.
if you actually watch the Whitaker fight one of the big reasons he won is because he actually fought his way out in clinches. he kind of shoeshined while grabbing, and while he was doing that hewas able to sneak out again and annoy Chavez with one of the best jabs of all time.
Whitaker is one of the best fighters ever anyway though, and Chavez was moving up in weight. I think it was less of a stylistic matchup and more of Chavez just being slightly outmatched, although it was a very competitive fight.
Taylor wasnt brawling anyway, he would flurry his way out. which is the best thing to do against someone like Chavez, who often would just wait it out until you were done and then continue on, although occasionally he would throw a counter left hook on the inside or crisscross right handswith you.
It was the best stylistic strategy to beat Chavez. stylistically Chavez always had more problems with volume punchers than boxers throughout his entire career.Comment
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