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  • illpapi
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    #41
    I'm pretty tired of these people who time and time again talk about Marquez like they were there sitting next to him at the negotiating table. Do you really know if he priced himself out? Do you have proof??? You really believe everything that comes from Bob Arum at this point? Do you? I'm not a big Marquez fan but it's unbelievable the nonsense that a lot of people spit out!

    Why is it that your God Manny or your God's leader Arum can't be wrong? Are you ***** kidding me? We know now how Arum operates...just follow the money! It's funny to me how they claim how they are looking at different fighters when they don't even believed that nonsense and neither did anyone else. Tell me who in this forum believed for a second that Pac's next opponent wouldn't be Shane? You and I both knew what was going to happen but yet Arum plays this BS about how they are considering a few fighters.....yeah, right!

    And for all these fans who talk about how Marquez has to prove this or that...at this weight or that weight....you bunch of hipocrites. Did Pac prove himself before he fought De La Hoya? Did he prove himself before he fought Margarito at the 150 range??? I love it when these people make these ******-a$$ arguments! Marquez already proved himself against Pac and to me that is all that matters.

    Also, some of you claim that a fight with Marquez might just be a waste for Pac, really??????? Hmmm...kinda of like his next fight or maybe like his fight against Margarito or maybe Diaz???? People please don't act like the rest of us are not aware of what's going on....we are!

    Some of you might not want to put your warrior down but the truth of the matter is that to a point Manny is being protected because that's Arum's cash cow. That is the truth whether most of you worshippers want to swallow it or not. Does anyone think for one second that if Sergio was a paper champ that Pac wouldn't be fighting him next??? Yup, I could see it now..."Manny goes for his 9th belt"......what a champ and a lot of you would be kissing the paper where that nonsense is written. Give me a break already. History will break everything down and believe me there will be more questions than answers.

    Also, just in case....I used to be a Pac fan back when he was really fighting competition but now it has gotten ridiculous and so damn obvious. Everytime he beats these guys that are made for him to beat it proves only one thing to me: NOTHING!

    Take it leave it....I really don't care!

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    • KingOfBox
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      #42
      Tell em JMM!!!!! All Top Rank does is name drop!!!! They keep their stars safe all the time. Top Rank wants nothing to do with a Mayweather, Martinez or a Berto! Back in the day Floyd reached out for a fight with Cotto, Arum said Cotto was "still too green." Later on Cotto would become a top welterweight and Top Rank never pursued a Mayweather fight for Cotto, ever. FACTS!!! Berto is now getting the same treatment. Berto gets no Pacman cuz he "doesn't sell"... But apparently Clottey was a blockbuster megafight for Pacman right? LMAO. Berto also "wants too much money" for a Cotto fight.. Interestingly DiBella publicly stated that making less than Cotto was no issue. Berto has HBO in his pocket and it is well documented that they pay top dollar to accomodate him for lesser fights. HBO would easily throw in extra $$ at Berto to make him happy for a fight with Cotto. But no... instead he'll fight............WAIT FOR IT........... Mayorga!!!!!!! And lets not talk about Martinez, after he bashed P-Will and schooled Pavlik he is treated as if he were a convicted child sexual predator waiting outside the gates of a Catholic school (Top Rank). Bob Arum wants nothing to do with these guys right now because he knows that these guys will make his guys look real bad in the ring, win or lose!!

      But its ok... we can look forward to see thrilling Pacquiao/Cotto cards that include megastars like: Mayorga, Martirosyan, Julio Cesar Chavez Jr, Clottey, Gomez, Wolak, Duddy, Lee... Now these are REAL cash cows... coming soon.. Pacquiao vs Cotto 2, Pacquiao vs Margarito 2, and lets not forget the rematch of "The Event" Pacquiao vs Clottey. I'd rather watch Christy Martin's return than Cotto vs Mayorga.

      I've been telling people for years that Bob Arum is in the business of keeping fighters away from other fighters, sometimes beneficial of making a superfight (Lopez-Gamboa).. But mostly, to PROTECT his fighters.

      At some point Bob, you are gonna have to fit Floyd, Martinez, and Berto into the picture to show your fighter's worth.

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      • iloveboxing2
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        #43
        20 Mil, are you out of your mind?

        ...he will never get paid over 8 mil/fight, keep dreaming!
        Originally posted by FINITO
        Cawd dam i love Marquez. What a man of honor, a man of dignity... A true fighter's fighter.. U see how he never spits venom towards anyone.. He just speaks his mind and he speaks the truth.. Everything he says in the article is true so no one should be saying **** about it. When Morales was on top, he never gave marquez the chance so now the table's turned, Morales can wait!!! ahahhahha I love morales just like the next guy but he's old and washed up, no match for this greatest Mexican ever..

        Marquez deserves a 20 million dollar payday.. after all,. in today's boxing, it's not about how much seats one can put in the seat anyways.. Marquez deserves 20 mill

        Pacman's boring azz..

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        • FINITO
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          #44
          Originally posted by mr_kamado10
          what Morales on his prime won't fight Marquez????are you dreaming....it was Marquez who price himself out(insane demand) of a fight of then primed Morales when both under Toprank...Marquez love to price himself out against a top competition..He did it the first time against Pacman when he turned down 750k dollars plus a big number in PPV plus legacy building up fight, only to fight for 30k against little known Chris John held in indonesia....Then he did it against the 2nd time by demanding double of what he earned against Floyd which he lost by a shutout.. .Now wants to fight a shot and faded Morales......Marquez is the price himself out king against prime fighters...
          U betta get your facts straight, *******o.. Ill let u in on a lil secret that's only known to Boxing's Ivy Leaguers..

          After their first encounter, Marquez was promised to receive 1.5 million for a rematch but then they came up with this bull**** 750k offer so him and NAcho said da hell with it and fought the next big challenge in John... He's a man of honor..

          He's not like a whore who gets sold out like Pac..

          ANd FYI, *******ed, It's MOrales who wants to face Marquez, and not the other way around.

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          • iloveboxing2
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            #45
            that is just too bad!!!cry all day...

            ..and I hope Arum..sticks to his plans....keep b1tching...!

            Originally posted by KingOfBox
            Tell em JMM!!!!! All Top Rank does is name drop!!!! They keep their stars safe all the time. Top Rank wants nothing to do with a Mayweather, Martinez or a Berto! Back in the day Floyd reached out for a fight with Cotto, Arum said Cotto was "still too green." Later on Cotto would become a top welterweight and Top Rank never pursued a Mayweather fight for Cotto, ever. FACTS!!! Berto is now getting the same treatment. Berto gets no Pacman cuz he "doesn't sell"... But apparently Clottey was a blockbuster megafight for Pacman right? LMAO. Berto also "wants too much money" for a Cotto fight.. Interestingly DiBella publicly stated that making less than Cotto was no issue. Berto has HBO in his pocket and it is well documented that they pay top dollar to accomodate him for lesser fights. HBO would easily throw in extra $$ at Berto to make him happy for a fight with Cotto. But no... instead he'll fight............WAIT FOR IT........... Mayorga!!!!!!! And lets not talk about Martinez, after he bashed P-Will and schooled Pavlik he is treated as if he were a convicted child sexual predator waiting outside the gates of a Catholic school (Top Rank). Bob Arum wants nothing to do with these guys right now because he knows that these guys will make his guys look real bad in the ring, win or lose!!

            But its ok... we can look forward to see thrilling Pacquiao/Cotto cards that include megastars like: Mayorga, Martirosyan, Julio Cesar Chavez Jr, Clottey, Gomez, Wolak, Duddy, Lee... Now these are REAL cash cows... coming soon.. Pacquiao vs Cotto 2, Pacquiao vs Margarito 2, and lets not forget the rematch of "The Event" Pacquiao vs Clottey. I'd rather watch Christy Martin's return than Cotto vs Mayorga.

            I've been telling people for years that Bob Arum is in the business of keeping fighters away from other fighters, sometimes beneficial of making a superfight (Lopez-Gamboa).. But mostly, to PROTECT his fighters.

            At some point Bob, you are gonna have to fit Floyd, Martinez, and Berto into the picture to show your fighter's worth.

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            • KingOfBox
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              #46
              Originally posted by iloveboxing2
              ..and I hope Arum..sticks to his plans....keep b1tching...!
              Nobody is b*tching... just pulling his card... keep waiting on Pac v Margarito 2. I'm sure you can't wait for the 24/7 episodes!!!!! LMFAO SMH.... OWNED

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              • letsgobrady
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                #47
                manny fans are the worst all they do is **** on everyone who doesn't bow down to the great manny pacquiao,in the last month the pac fans have attacked marquez,mayweather,hopkins and martinez just because they don't think pacquiao is as great as his fans make him out to be

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                • SluggerFan
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                  #48
                  I can understand JMM's frustration, however, if he can trash Morales quickly like Pacquiao did in their third fight, JMM will make a strong case to be Pacquiao's next opponent. After Mosley, there is no one else in Arum's stable anybody will pay to see. Nobody wants Mosley even, but at least he is somebody different. After trashing both Cotto and Margarito, nobody will pay to see him fight either one again. If Floyd isn't available, it only seems logical that he should fight JMM next (again, logical and boxing don't do hand in hand)...

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                  • iloveboxing2
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                    #49
                    If you already know Arums intents and purposes...

                    ..then why hell bother posting comments here..right now..Arum and Pac rules, if you don't like then start your own promotions and we'll see how far you'll go or how fast you'll go down..people are entitled to voice their opinion. Get some sleep!!

                    Originally posted by illpapi
                    I'm pretty tired of these people who time and time again talk about Marquez like they were there sitting next to him at the negotiating table. Do you really know if he priced himself out? Do you have proof??? You really believe everything that comes from Bob Arum at this point? Do you? I'm not a big Marquez fan but it's unbelievable the nonsense that a lot of people spit out!

                    Why is it that your God Manny or your God's leader Arum can't be wrong? Are you ***** kidding me? We know now how Arum operates...just follow the money! It's funny to me how they claim how they are looking at different fighters when they don't even believed that nonsense and neither did anyone else. Tell me who in this forum believed for a second that Pac's next opponent wouldn't be Shane? You and I both knew what was going to happen but yet Arum plays this BS about how they are considering a few fighters.....yeah, right!

                    And for all these fans who talk about how Marquez has to prove this or that...at this weight or that weight....you bunch of hipocrites. Did Pac prove himself before he fought De La Hoya? Did he prove himself before he fought Margarito at the 150 range??? I love it when these people make these ******-a$$ arguments! Marquez already proved himself against Pac and to me that is all that matters.

                    Also, some of you claim that a fight with Marquez might just be a waste for Pac, really??????? Hmmm...kinda of like his next fight or maybe like his fight against Margarito or maybe Diaz???? People please don't act like the rest of us are not aware of what's going on....we are!

                    Some of you might not want to put your warrior down but the truth of the matter is that to a point Manny is being protected because that's Arum's cash cow. That is the truth whether most of you worshippers want to swallow it or not. Does anyone think for one second that if Sergio was a paper champ that Pac wouldn't be fighting him next??? Yup, I could see it now..."Manny goes for his 9th belt"......what a champ and a lot of you would be kissing the paper where that nonsense is written. Give me a break already. History will break everything down and believe me there will be more questions than answers.

                    Also, just in case....I used to be a Pac fan back when he was really fighting competition but now it has gotten ridiculous and so damn obvious. Everytime he beats these guys that are made for him to beat it proves only one thing to me: NOTHING!

                    Take it leave it....I really don't care!

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                    • letsgobrady
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by FINITO
                      U betta get your facts straight, *******o.. Ill let u in on a lil secret that's only known to Boxing's Ivy Leaguers..

                      After their first encounter, Marquez was promised to receive 1.5 million for a rematch but then they came up with this bull**** 750k offer so him and NAcho said da hell with it and fought the next big challenge in John... He's a man of honor.. He's not like a whore who gets sold out like Pac..

                      ANd FYI, *******ed, It's MOrales who wants to face Marquez, and not the other way around.
                      they expect everyone to bend over and get ****ed by manny like margarito,clottey and cotto but marquez is not those 3 fighters

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