Can Haye fans explain...........

**Dempsey-Roll** · 01-07-2011, 04:35 AM

Haye is just trying to get out of the fight like he always does.
Nothing new here.

**flat1985** · 01-07-2011, 04:36 AM

I think it is because Haye will have to fight Chagev or lose his belt.

**Russian Crushin** · 01-07-2011, 04:42 AM

Originally posted by flat1985

I think it is because Haye will have to fight Chagev or lose his belt.

What does that make any difference?

Haye wants the fight July 2nd no matter what. Only problem he has is Vlad fighing in April. So explain to me what Vlad fighting in april hasto do with haye fighting Chagaev?

**flat1985** · 01-07-2011, 04:45 AM

Originally posted by Russian Crushin

What does that make any difference?

Haye wants the fight July 2nd no matter what. Only problem he has is Vlad fighing in April. So explain to me what Vlad fighting in april hasto do with haye fighting Chagaev?

It means Haye has to fight chagev or lose his belt

Edit: He cant sign the contract till after Wlad fights Chisora which means he will have to fight Chagev or get striped.

**MAXWELL_** · 01-07-2011, 04:50 AM

Originally posted by -Top Rank-

Why Wlad facing Chirosa 9 weeks prior to their bout such a big deal when...........

Juanma had a bout 10 weeks before the biggest fight of his career (Rafa). Unfortunately he Rafa got hurt and it was pushed back but you think both Rafa and Juanma cared about Juanma taking on Concepcion 10 weeks prior to their set bout?

Also, both Kessler and Ward had bouts 10 weeks prior to facing off. That was the biggest bout of Wards career and the 2nd biggest (being Calzaghe's) of Kessler career.

Giovanni Segura didn't have any problems with Calderon facing Jesus Iribe 10 weeks prior to facing him. Biggest bout of both of their careers.

Arreola didn't have any issues with Adamek taking on Jason Estrada 11 weeks prior to their showdown

Donaire didn't have any issues with Fernando Montiel taking a bout 10 weeks prior to their showdown. That fight is the biggest of both of their careers.

BTW should I continue? Fact is this; each and everyone of those guys were elite fighters facing elite oppostion.

All those bouts were considered the biggest of their respective careers, but you know what.....they were champions/real man and didn't b1tch about it and threaten to pull out/retire.

since when has wlad fought two bouts 2months apart? thats not his MO.
he'll find a way out against haye.

**sunny31** · 01-07-2011, 05:07 AM

He will lose his belt, number one

Haye will either have to cram a fight in March which isn't that long away...he would have to negotiate the terms, promote, and train for a fight which would potentially be 8 weeks away, and thats if sky will even give him a date in March. We know April is off the cards...and May would be unrealisitic, especially considering the fight is at the very beginning of July.

The other option is the long lay off which loses haye his belt, and then what if wlad picks up an injury against chisora, or just realises the fights are too close together and wants to push it back a month or 2 when they come back to the negotiating table...which is what I think he will do, by that time haye would have been out of the ring for a long time, if it was to happen in sep or oct which would give wlad a huge advantage.

See how badly haye has been messed around? The July 2nd date is a smoke screen, its easy for wlad to say he will fight then and it doesn't appear as a duck which is exactly what it is. The fight could have been easily done in May at the millenium stadium (50k+), klitschko camp said all along that they would do the fight where it made most sense, and if that was in the UK then so be it, but I guess that wasn't there intention at all was it? Wlad never intended to fight anywhere but germany. This whole thing has told me more about his phsyche.

**flat1985** · 01-07-2011, 05:10 AM

Originally posted by sunny31

He will lose his belt, number one

Haye will either have to cram a fight in March which isn't that long away...he would have to negotiate the terms, promote, and train for a fight which would potentially be 8 weeks away, and thats if sky will even give him a date in March. We know April is off the cards...and May would be unrealisitic, especially considering the fight is at the very beginning of July.

The other option is the long lay off which loses haye his belt, and then what if wlad picks up an injury against chisora, or just realises the fights are too close together and wants to push it back a month or 2 when they come back to the negotiating table...which is what I think he will do, by that time haye would have been out of the ring for a long time, if it was to happen in sep or oct which would give wlad a huge advantage.

See how badly haye has been messed around? The July 2nd date is a smoke screen, its easy for wlad to say he will fight then and it doesn't appear as a duck which is exactly what it is. The fight could have been easily done in May at the millenium stadium (50k+), klitschko camp said all along that they would do the fight where it made most sense, and if that was in the UK then so be it, but I guess that wasn't there intention at all was it? Wlad never intended to fight anywhere but germany. This whole thing has told me more about his phsyche.

Good post..

**SN!PER** · 01-07-2011, 05:34 AM

When Mike Tyson beat Trevor Berbick for the WBC belt, it was his 13th fight of that year.

Can Haye fans explain...........