Could Klitcko's loss to Brewster and Sanders Been Prevented-YES, easily

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  • success7
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    Could Klitcko's loss to Brewster and Sanders Been Prevented-YES, easily

    First his loss to Brewster. People dont realize. Wlad didnt spar more then 6 rnds for a fight. Most of his fights he never had to really mix it up and releied on muscle. Not conditioning, he was in good shape but not warrior shape. Steward is fixing this, making him spar 10x as much before.
    The Sanders loss, over confidence, never fought a guy like that, poor strategy.
    The good thing is that he has seen the worse. Nothing is worse then these losses.
    Steward can create the strategy, He can condition Vlad to fight an animal like Peter. Two main things.
    Chin of course is the issue. Peter is a harder hitting, slower, less skilled Brewster basically. Peter can end it in one shot, but Vlad can shut him down.
    Look for the first 3 rnds for Vlad to be SUPERGUNSHY- when peter moves within 3 feet of him Vlad will jab his head off. An occaisional right hand here and there. Vlad will make Peter work and catch him.
    Rnds 3-6 will be the telling rnds. Peter will either start to get frustrated and bullrush vlad winging hooks and even catch him but in the interim get caught himself. If either guy makes it to 7-10, it will end somewhere around here. I look for Peter to get stopped on his feet sort of like Mercer due to amount of punches landed. He will get outsped, Vlad will have taken some shots, but will survive.
    If he can get Brewster or Sanders-at least one back in the ring, he can beat them and move on to Byrd, Ruiz, and Toney. Vlad still has a way outside shot of becoming a great heavyweight .It would take about 10 good fights and rematches.
    Or he could fold and get clobbered into next week.
    Think about this, he has the same chin as tommy morrison and it took tommy the mercer and bentt ko to really learn how to fight hurt with ruddock, not be scared of Foreman.
    This could be Morrison vs Foreman all over again.
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    #2
    Originally posted by success7
    First his loss to Brewster. People dont realize. Wlad didnt spar more then 6 rnds for a fight. Most of his fights he never had to really mix it up and releied on muscle. Not conditioning, he was in good shape but not warrior shape. Steward is fixing this, making him spar 10x as much before.
    The Sanders loss, over confidence, never fought a guy like that, poor strategy.
    The good thing is that he has seen the worse. Nothing is worse then these losses.
    Steward can create the strategy, He can condition Vlad to fight an animal like Peter. Two main things.
    Chin of course is the issue. Peter is a harder hitting, slower, less skilled Brewster basically. Peter can end it in one shot, but Vlad can shut him down.
    Look for the first 3 rnds for Vlad to be SUPERGUNSHY- when peter moves within 3 feet of him Vlad will jab his head off. An occaisional right hand here and there. Vlad will make Peter work and catch him.
    Rnds 3-6 will be the telling rnds. Peter will either start to get frustrated and bullrush vlad winging hooks and even catch him but in the interim get caught himself. If either guy makes it to 7-10, it will end somewhere around here. I look for Peter to get stopped on his feet sort of like Mercer due to amount of punches landed. He will get outsped, Vlad will have taken some shots, but will survive.
    If he can get Brewster or Sanders-at least one back in the ring, he can beat them and move on to Byrd, Ruiz, and Toney. Vlad still has a way outside shot of becoming a great heavyweight .It would take about 10 good fights and rematches.
    Or he could fold and get clobbered into next week.
    Think about this, he has the same chin as tommy morrison and it took tommy the mercer and bentt ko to really learn how to fight hurt with ruddock, not be scared of Foreman.
    This could be Morrison vs Foreman all over again.

    oh wee, you are about to recieve some hate.

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    • Leo Pradun
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      #3
      if Klitschko beats Peter hes back up near Vitali and they will both rule the division..

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      • BLOODSHED
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        #4
        Excuses excuses... excuses like Wlads lie that he was poisoned. Did you buy into that?
        Originally posted by success7
        First his loss to Brewster. People dont realize. Wlad didnt spar more then 6 rnds for a fight. Most of his fights he never had to really mix it up and releied on muscle. Not conditioning, he was in good shape but not warrior shape. Steward is fixing this, making him spar 10x as much before.
        The Sanders loss, over confidence, never fought a guy like that, poor strategy.
        The good thing is that he has seen the worse. Nothing is worse then these losses.
        Steward can create the strategy, He can condition Vlad to fight an animal like Peter. Two main things.
        Chin of course is the issue. Peter is a harder hitting, slower, less skilled Brewster basically. Peter can end it in one shot, but Vlad can shut him down.
        Look for the first 3 rnds for Vlad to be SUPERGUNSHY- when peter moves within 3 feet of him Vlad will jab his head off. An occaisional right hand here and there. Vlad will make Peter work and catch him.
        Rnds 3-6 will be the telling rnds. Peter will either start to get frustrated and bullrush vlad winging hooks and even catch him but in the interim get caught himself. If either guy makes it to 7-10, it will end somewhere around here. I look for Peter to get stopped on his feet sort of like Mercer due to amount of punches landed. He will get outsped, Vlad will have taken some shots, but will survive.
        If he can get Brewster or Sanders-at least one back in the ring, he can beat them and move on to Byrd, Ruiz, and Toney. Vlad still has a way outside shot of becoming a great heavyweight .It would take about 10 good fights and rematches.
        Or he could fold and get clobbered into next week.
        Think about this, he has the same chin as tommy morrison and it took tommy the mercer and bentt ko to really learn how to fight hurt with ruddock, not be scared of Foreman.
        This could be Morrison vs Foreman all over again.

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        • Cambria
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          #5
          Originally posted by Leo Pradun
          if Klitschko beats Peter hes back up near Vitali and they will both rule the division..

          I tend to agree. Both Klits are marketable. If either one starts to smash their opp, they will start being highly regarded again.

          Vitali needs to be more active. Bottom line. If he comes in and fight 3 times in 06, he will get the respect he wants (provided he beats top 10 guys)

          Wlad has all the skill in the world. Emanuel if you are reading this, please make that man run until he falls over, then pick him up and make him run some more. If Wlad ever gets conditioned, the HW division is in for trouble.

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          • riz
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            #6
            yto man u saying vitali has to be more active? man he fights all the time, jus this year cuz of injuries, i mean his last fight was in december hasn't even been 9 monhts yet...

            i mean he fought less than 6 months after that cut to lewis. he was back training b4 lewis was....

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            • !! Mr. Soprano
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              #7
              success7,

              All that effort... deserves some K+

              Welcome to Boxingscene :-)
              Keep up the good work!

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              • Enayze
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                #8
                Originally posted by Cambria
                I tend to agree. Both Klits are marketable. If either one starts to smash their opp, they will start being highly regarded again.

                Vitali needs to be more active. Bottom line. If he comes in and fight 3 times in 06, he will get the respect he wants (provided he beats top 10 guys)

                Wlad has all the skill in the world. Emanuel if you are reading this, please make that man run until he falls over, then pick him up and make him run some more. If Wlad ever gets conditioned, the HW division is in for trouble.
                Dont be ****** un condition fighters dont go 10 rounds with Mc'Cline, 12 with Byrd, 7 with Barret, 6 with Mercer, and 8 with Botha.

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                • !! Mr. Soprano
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Enayze
                  Dont be ****** un condition fighters dont go 10 rounds with Mc'Cline, 12 with Byrd, 7 with Barret, 6 with Mercer, and 8 with Botha.
                  No, he's right...

                  This was Wlad BS (Before Sanders)
                  The AS Wlad is different :-(

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                  • Hitman932
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Leo Pradun
                    if Klitschko beats Peter hes back up near Vitali and they will both rule the division..

                    if wlad wins this fight and wins the title, and continues to fight for 6 or 7 more years (hed be 36). hed stand to retire with upwards of 65 victories against a lot of very good competition, and has the potential to hold belts for multiple defenses.

                    if he loses he probably disappears.

                    thats what makes this fight so good.

                    i really dont care what people say about wlad, i know he is going to win this fight and hopefully alot more.

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