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  • - Evil -
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    #21
    Originally posted by Zeroflip1
    I agree 100%
    Thats just overating Mayweather, i know he has real good talent but your just fooling yourself by thinking two very, very good fighters wouldnt even cause him problems. This is verging on unreal.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Enayze
      Guys what all of you are forgetting is that Mayweather is human, and every fighter losses. Not to mention his chin looked a little shaky in the Corley fight, and Cotto provides power.

      We also saw that Tszyu was a tactical fighter, not to the extent of Mayweather but still up there, and what happened was that his plan went out the door once Hatton put on the pressure for 11 rounds.

      How will Mayweather deal with the pressure that Hatton brings, or can he withstand Cotto's power? Easy questions, but to think a little more carefully not soo easy answers, because lets get serious Gatti didnt land ANYTHING on Floyd, he was to slow, and not enough power even if he did.

      Floyd would handle either with relative ease IMO. Handspeed, footwork, and defense will be the big differences.
      Keep in mind, Tzsyu is much like Hopkins in that he likes to sit back in his little comfort zone and control the pace of the fight. Mayweather doesn't rely on that, which is the reason I don't think Hatton can beat him. He can pressure PBF all night and nothing will come of it but huge compubox numbers for Mayweather.

      As far as a shaky chin....Corley may have hurt Mayweather, but no more than he hurt Cotto in their fight. And Cotto got lucky to be fighting in his hometown with a ****ty ref.

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        #23
        I dont see anyone beating Floyd under 154, not including

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          #24
          Originally posted by punchers_chance
          Floyd would handle either with relative ease IMO. Handspeed, footwork, and defense will be the big differences.
          Keep in mind, Tzsyu is much like Hopkins in that he likes to sit back in his little comfort zone and control the pace of the fight. Mayweather doesn't rely on that, which is the reason I don't think Hatton can beat him. He can pressure PBF all night and nothing will come of it but huge compubox numbers for Mayweather.

          As far as a shaky chin....Corley may have hurt Mayweather, but no more than he hurt Cotto in their fight. And Cotto got lucky to be fighting in his hometown with a ****ty ref.

          I agree! Neither have the skill to beat PBF!

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            #25
            Originally posted by kmac
            I dont see anyone beating Floyd under 154, not including
            To be honest, I think Zab Judah may have a chance....but nobody else at 147.

            At 154, I'm doubtful. There are so many good fighters at 154 with power, skill, and speed. Kassim Ouma, Winky Wright, Vernon Forrest, Kofi Jantuah(puncher....could Floyd take it?).....and the list goes on.

            Not to say he wouldn't have a chance....he's lighting fast, in great condition, and he has yet to be defeated. But, he's not superman.

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              #26
              Originally posted by punchers_chance
              To be honest, I think Zab Judah may have a chance....but nobody else at 147.

              At 154, I'm doubtful. There are so many good fighters at 154 with power, skill, and speed. Kassim Ouma, Winky Wright, Vernon Forrest, Kofi Jantuah(puncher....could Floyd take it?).....and the list goes on.

              Not to say he wouldn't have a chance....he's lighting fast, in great condition, and he has yet to be defeated. But, he's not superman.

              I dont disagree, Zab does have a chance,
              but it is difficult for a boxer to beat a better boxer

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                #27
                Originally posted by kmac
                I dont disagree, Zab does have a chance,
                but it is difficult for a boxer to beat a better boxer

                But keep in mind Zab is the best puncher in the welterweight division, as well as the best boxer. Plus, he's almost as fast as PBF.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by punchers_chance
                  To be honest, I think Zab Judah may have a chance....but nobody else at 147.

                  At 154, I'm doubtful. There are so many good fighters at 154 with power, skill, and speed. Kassim Ouma, Winky Wright, Vernon Forrest, Kofi Jantuah(puncher....could Floyd take it?).....and the list goes on.

                  Not to say he wouldn't have a chance....he's lighting fast, in great condition, and he has yet to be defeated. But, he's not superman.
                  Its funny how people see things different. The reason i think Hatton could beat Mayweather is because he has obvious strength, power and workrate advantages over Mayweather so it could be interesting because Mayweather has never done well against that type of fighter but Zab Judah has NO advantages over Mayweather, except maybe the predictable straight left power shot that any decent boxer see's coming before he even throw it. Look how Spinks, an average fighter with a bit of ring smart beat Judah the first time and Mayweather a hell of a lot better than him.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by punchers_chance
                    But keep in mind Zab is the best puncher in the welterweight division, as well as the best boxer. Plus, he's almost as fast as PBF.
                    Mayweather's too clever to get hit with Judahs power shots, i think Mayweather would school him.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by - Evil -
                      Its funny how people see things different. The reason i think Hatton could beat Mayweather is because he has obvious strength, power and workrate advantages over Mayweather so it could be interesting because Mayweather has never done well against that type of fighter but Zab Judah has NO advantages over Mayweather, except maybe the predictable straight left that any decent boxer see's coming before he even throw it. Look how Spinks, an average fighter with a bit of ring smart beat Judah the first time and Mayweather a hell of a lot better than him.

                      I agree with you as far as strength and workrate advantages, but tell me Mayweather is not in better shape and couldn't up his workrate. Mayweather can adjust just like any great fighter.

                      Hatton is no bum by any means, but remember, his voctory over Tszyu came in large part due to the low blow....and if my memory serves me correct, Tszyu was leading on the cards prior to that.

                      Also, Mayweather wouldn't allow Hatton to bully him and tie up his right hand like he did to Tszyu almost the entire fight.

                      Don't get me wrong, it would be an exciting fight, and for the first time someone would be bringing the action to Mayweather as long as the fight lasts....but Floyd has the speed skills, and enough pop in his right hand to control the fight.

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