Comments Thread For: Winky Wright on How Pacquiao Shuts Mosley Down

[The Gambler1981]

It depends solely on his motivation and mind-set going into the fight, not what's happening in the fight, and certainly not his astrological sign.

If he seeks out the Floyd's and Pac's of this world for the money, he will quit on himself again.
If he's fighting for his honor and glory, he will be the warrior he's known as.

It's always about the mind-set and determination you have put in yourself beforehand.

I suspect he's in it for the money. Which is why I think Mosley will be stopped around the mid-rounds.

Disagree him quitting has everything to do with what goes down in that specific point. If he gets frustrated and a fighter is intent on frustrating him he will yield, that is Mosley weakest point as a fighter and it has everything to do with what happens on fight night.

If you attack him to beat him physically he is a tough opponent, if you attack his mindset he is soft.

[Pullcounter]

I was just thinking the same but realize that Floyd's style allowed Mosley to give up. Floyd doesn't put a lot of pressure so Shane was allowed to just pack it in and make it to the 12th.

With Manny, dude is gonna have to swim or end up drowning. Dude wont be able to just try to coast because Manny will be all over him.

pac will win, but with mosley running to last 12 rounds, pac doesn't have one punch KO power to stop mosley in his tracks.

[The Gambler1981]

The funny thing about what Winky said is, is that is actually the way Shane should be approaching the fight. Shane's range is his biggest advantage so he should be able to utilize that to catch Manny before Manny catches Shane, the problem for Shane with that plan is his jab is marginal at best and Manny should be able to get in close and come over the top of the jab when it is lazy.

If Mosley had a real jab it would be a real fight, but since he doesn't he should be able to give Manny issues but nothing more than that.

[Walt Liquor]

The hardest thing for me personally during Mosley vs Floyd Mayweather was watching Mosley quit on himself mid fight. Does he still have the fighting guts of years gone by? He will ****in need em just to last the course with The Pac Man

exactly. that really ******, after that happens, it's over.

floyd could have ko'd him if he tried

[Pullcounter]

The funny thing about what Winky said is, is that is actually the way Shane should be approaching the fight. Shane's range is his biggest advantage so he should be able to utilize that to catch Manny before Manny catches Shane, the problem for Shane with that plan is his jab is marginal at best and Manny should be able to get in close and come over the top of the jab when it is lazy.

If Mosley had a real jab it would be a real fight, but since he doesn't he should be able to give Manny issues but nothing more than that.

agreed, mosley's jab is not good enough.

if mosley really wants to win, he's gotta be willing to get hit and pressure pac to the ropes where he can unload hooks to the body, uppercuts, and the left uppercut followed by the short straight right cross.

if mosley runs, he'll get tagged at will, with no way to retaliate or counter. he'll last 12 rounds but his rep will take another hit.

[Pullcounter]

exactly. that really ******, after that happens, it's over.

floyd could have ko'd him if he tried

wifebeater was trying hard to KO mosley, but he just didn't throw enough combos. ****m was close to stopping the fight, but wifebeater needed to throw more punches.

[Khalid X]

pac will win, but with mosley running to last 12 rounds, pac doesn't have one punch KO power to stop mosley in his tracks.

I actually see a TKO stoppage in which Pac just starts to unload and Mosley is left defenseless, forcing the ref to step in.

[tyson]

you got it wrong.

if mosley is just in it for the money, then he's got to survive for 12 rounds because paydays with cotto and marg are around the corner. if mosley gets KTFO, then the calls for him to retire will be louder than ever.

You misunderstood me. When I say quitting on himself, I mean discarding the belief that he can still win the fight.
When that happens, you'll see Mosley standing there feinting by keeping his hands moving in circles in front of his chest, like he did against Floyd.
He will stop punching with intelligence and start swinging hail-mosley's every now and again to keep his opponent off of him.

Disagree him quitting has everything to do with what goes down in that specific point. If he gets frustrated and a fighter is intent on frustrating him he will yield, that is Mosley weakest point as a fighter and it has everything to do with what happens on fight night.

If you attack him to beat him physically he is a tough opponent, if you attack his mindset he is soft.

Look above, I talk about quitting as in resigning the intention of trying to win. Mosley was losing the first 6 rounds against DLH in the first fight. He floored the gas pedal and sold his soul to the devil to change the fight.

Against Floyd, Mosley never really believed he would be able to outbox or outfight Mayweather before the fight even started, and relied on his power to get lucky. He got lucky and couldn't capitalize.
So he stopped trying to win.

The difference between the fights was the mental preparation beforehand, not what was going on in the respective fights.

I'm also speaking from experience here, if you prepare yourself good mentally, you'll go through hell and back without thinking about it.
If you are somewhat off, you're not willing to walk through hell in the first place.

What happens on fight night only shows off what kind of mental state you came in with.

[Pullcounter]

You misunderstood me. When I say quitting on himself, I mean discarding the belief that he can still win the fight.
When that happens, you'll see Mosley standing there feinting by keeping his hands moving in circles in front of his chest, like he did against Floyd.
He will stop punching with intelligence and start swinging hail-mosley's every now and again to keep his opponent off of him.


Look above, I talk about quitting as in resigning the intention of trying to win. Mosley was losing the first 6 rounds against DLH in the first fight. He floored the gas pedal and sold his soul to the devil to change the fight.

Against Floyd, Mosley never really believed he would be able to outbox or outfight Mayweather before the fight even started, and relied on his power to get lucky. He got lucky and couldn't capitalize.
So he stopped trying to win.

The difference between the fights was the mental preparation beforehand, not what was going on in the respective fights.

I'm also speaking from experience here, if you prepare yourself good mentally, you'll go through hell and back without thinking about it.
If you are somewhat off, you're not willing to walk through hell in the first place.

What happens on fight night only shows off what kind of mental state you came in with.

mosley gassed against wifebeater. even wifebeater was taunting mosley about gassing before their fight.

against dlh, mosley still had good stamina.

[Pullcounter]

I actually see a TKO stoppage in which Pac just starts to unload and Mosley is left defenseless, forcing the ref to step in.

its possible, especially if mosley just stand there like he did against wifebeater. but i suspect, ****m will train mosley to run instead of standing there to be hit.