So, Why did Pacquiao duck Andre Berto?

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  • DET. IRONSIDE
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    #51
    He didn't get piked cos he's not a superstar who draw PPV's to his fights already. Shane is guaranteed bankroll at 147.

    Berto would purely rely on Pacquiao's drawing ability. Arum obviously has no conidence in that.

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    • jake stevens
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      #52
      why did floyd duck manny,cotto,margarito,williams

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      • jpunieves
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        #53
        Originally posted by iPretty Boy32
        I think Manny had the tools to beat him easily,
        Yet he still ducked him....

        I wonder did Roach see something in Berto we don't?
        i think berto's just not THAT popular to the CASUAL fans... as arum have said it, it's just a piggy back ride to pac's popularity. and if pacquiao happens to lose, then that's two risk-strikes at once.

        at least for shane, the only risk he has is that pacquiao might lose... mosley's already popular to the casual fans.

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        • IMDAZED
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          #54
          I feel like it's 2006 all over again. Listen to the Pac stans go.

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          • iPretty Boy32
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            #55
            Funny how when mayweather fought a fighter with higher drawing power he is a coward, when PAC does it he's a genius.
            ******* idiots, Mosley aint even a draw, he was battered in his last two fights,
            Berto is an undefeated champion, it would sell much more.
            Pacquiao ducked him, deal with it.

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            • King Ju-Ju
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              #56
              pac and arum are about making money. fighting mosley would bring in more money then berto. plus berto gets ko in 4-5 rounds. mosley would probably go 10 with him.

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              • xAUGUSTUSx
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                #57
                Originally posted by iPretty Boy32
                I think Manny had the tools to beat him easily,
                Yet he still ducked him....

                I wonder did Roach see something in Berto we don't?
                Umm Are you serious?. There is no money in fighting Berto at all. Pacquiao is used to making lots of money. Why should he take a huge pay cut just to give someone like Berto (who was completely manufactured) a shot.

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                • Eaner0919
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Bull24
                  Floyd beat Marquez because of he had an unfair size advantage, the way he likes it.

                  Pacquiao chose Mosley as an opponent because Mosley has a size advantage(that and the moneys good)

                  Floyd had a chance to fight a smaller fighter in Pacquiao but hid. Uncharacteristic of somebdy that only avoids welterweights like Berto usually.
                  dumb

                  just dumb

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                  • BoZz
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                    #59
                    I've got this from a different site but it's quite a good read.

                    Damon B. (Coppell, TX): I read a recent conversation between Amir Khan and Manny Pacquiao where Khan jokingly told Pacquiao to "Get off them drugs", and Pacquiao responded in saying "I will never take a drug in my life, but when Mayweather is demanding I take a test everyday it is mental, and I'm just not ready for that". Taking this piece as truth really reveals something that not many have either thought of or chose to voice . What are your thoughts on Pacquiao's statement?

                    Vivek W. (ESB): I agree, this statement opens a path to a previously untouched angle that could possibly add up. What I find particularly interesting here is that it embodies a spiritual connotation, in the sense that like life itself, the focal point surrounding Pacquiao tends to be all physical, yet the blunt reality is hidden somewhere in the mental realm! People look at Pacquiao's 'iron-built' toughness displayed against much bigger men and suddenly, the physical attributes make us forget how important the mental game truly is. To take it a step further, I've always said that no one man is all of anything, for in every good man lies a hint of wrong-doing, and in every sinner lies a path to peace.

                    When you examine these two men closely, it all unfolds. In Mayweather, if you remember the Judah fight when he was hit below the belt, there was absolute chaos all around him during the melee, but despite his uncle, manager, and others close to him being attacked, he went to one corner and never flinched a muscle, proving that even in the heat of the battle, his discipline is far from ordinary. This was a far cry from the man you recently saw on video lighting into the security guy at the guard gate, huh?

                    The flipside to this is that physically, Pacquiao is an absolute beast in the ring; yet in his very own words, his deepest admission tells us that mentally, he isn't completely ready to endure the type of anguish that comes along with being a Mayweather opponent - subject to many taunts and much disrespect for months prior to finally stepping in the ring. The more I think of it, I can't remember the last person in a pre-fight buildup who actually pushed Pacquiao's buttons or humiliated him like Mayweather would. Clottey and Cotto seemed more friendly and respectful than anything. Margarito? He certainly wasn't afraid, but a few sly comments on HBO's 24/7 is a vast difference from doing it to a man's face.

                    Most men who face Pacquiao are afraid of Pacquiao. The popular belief is that Mayweather is afraid of him, but we know he would be vintage Mayweather in a fight build up if it were to eventually happen because anything less would be a sure sign of fear. So, could being face to face with someone who shows no fear and actually taunts him ultimately unravel Pacquiao? Mike Tyson found himself confronted with this very scenario against Holyfield and we all know how that turned out. It's funny to see how the two situations parallel, because Holyfield was asked to take a drug test for Tyson as well. Difference is, he agreed to, but only under the notion that the results not be made public until the fight was over because he wanted Tyson to enter the ring with a "defeatist attitude", giving himself another reason to lose. Worked like a charm!

                    To this day, Pacquiao feels the blood test prior to facing Morales is the reason he lost (first fight). This is a major sign which proves that he can also give himself a reason to lose under certain circumstances. For Pacquiao, it starts with pride for his country. What happens when he enters the ring with heated emotions and a fear-factor of letting his people down, while standing across from one of the only men in the sport disciplined enough to execute without the heated emotions he so brilliantly placed within you? All that button pushing could only surface in the ring, and it all happens so fast that only a true critical thinker could rise above it. This is a very intriguing scenario to explore. Unfortunately we may never know.

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                    • lyrical
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                      #60
                      Pac is a big draw whoever he fights but I think that Berto would have been the bigger draw now due to being undefeated and also a lot younger than Shane, also after Money whooped him Shane is damaged goods, its no different to fighting Hatton after Floyd already destroyed him

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