Is it possible for a supper middle to beat a top ranking heavey weight?

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  • TheEvilSaint
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    #11
    Originally posted by Moschino045
    Im pretty sure RJJ and JT were using chemical assistance to get up to the heavies man, not trying to be an ******* but its prolly da thruth
    well, its a proven fact that toney was on juice. as for RJJ, he weighed in at 193 in the fight with ruiz, only slightly higher than the cruiser limit. i could be wrong, but IMO jones wasnt on the juice when he beat ruiz.

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    • paul750
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      #12
      I don't think a truly great big heavyweight with skill, like Lennox Lewis would have allowed himself to be beaten by much smaller guys.

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      • tommyhearns804
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        #13
        This is to the guy who said he believe Lacy could beat Ruiz and Byrd.Bryd is a blown up middleweight who fights at heavyweight.Ruiz is a talentless cruiserweight who fights at heavyweight so if beat any of them he still wouldn't have beat a top rated heavyweight.
        The answer is hell no.No super middleweight who ever lived could beat a top level real heavyweight.

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        • Banderivets
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          #14
          I think its possible, I KOed guys 40lb heavier then me.

          Just because someone is heavy doesnt mean they punch hard, I've been puched by a 140lb man harder then a 200+.

          But if its a top heavy then Id highly doubt it.

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          • Knicksman20
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            #15
            It's possible because it's all about styles. Jones & Toney are 2 exceptional fighters in their own right that had right style to beat a heavy even though it was Ruiz. I doubt Calphony or Lacy could even beat Ruiz because their style is all wrong for him.

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              #16
              Originally posted by sanjayint
              Is it possible for a supper middle to beat a top ranking heavey weight? JUST A bit similar to roy jones junior?

              can joe or lacy @ supper middle be able to outbox or even KO a heavey weight in the top 15 ??


              no


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              • Run
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                #17
                Sure they can beat them. Outboxing and using superior skills to their advantage.

                K.O. them? Nope. Not a chance.



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                • dino
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                  #18
                  lacy might could give ruiz a good fight...jones and toney were useing something..so was mosley

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                  • I-WISH-A-MF-WOULD
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                    #19
                    If you're name is John Ruiz and I was a middle or above I'd be lined up like it was a gang **** and RJJ has NEVER juiced let it go already.

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                    • cupcrazy01
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by tommyhearns804
                      This is to the guy who said he believe Lacy could beat Ruiz and Byrd.Bryd is a blown up middleweight who fights at heavyweight.Ruiz is a talentless cruiserweight who fights at heavyweight so if beat any of them he still wouldn't have beat a top rated heavyweight.
                      The answer is hell no.No super middleweight who ever lived could beat a top level real heavyweight.
                      The question was "top ranking heavyweight," and I believe Ruiz and Byrd qualify as top ranking heavies, considering they have belts. When talking about top level heavyweights, well, they aren't really any out there today other than maybe Vitali.

                      Do I think a super middle could KO a top LEVEL heavyweight? No.

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