Comments Thread For: Floyd Mayweather Jr: The Great Disappointment

[ReUterZ]

They showed Cotto and Hatton at the fight because they
were next in line. Even Jim Lampley said Cotto was next
up for a fight with Floyd but he should think it through.
Did you even watch the fight?

- Hatton and Cotto were next in line ...... after Gatti, Floyd fight who?

- Cotto said .. think it through ... does it means no?

- Did I even watch the fight? ... Yes but not in HBO version.

ESPN’s Dan Rafeal reported on this. The reason for the split between Mayweather and Top Rank was reported as follows in Rafeal’s 2006 article on ESPN.com.

“Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.

The thinking through of Cotto was a yes and he was not hell scared (that guy SKILLS_vs_PILLS was assuming a lot). The irony there, Cotto fought Margarito whom Mayweather avoided.

To clarify, Cotto and Mayweather did not duck each other.

[Mr. Philadel]

By Thomas Gerbasi - Ego. Every fighter has one, and the greater the fighter, the greater the ego. Even the ones who speak softly and humbly outside the ring have that certain something, that belief that when it’s just you and him in a ring with nothing but gloves to speak with, you’ll be the one who talks the loudest.

And while ego may manifest itself in many ways, when it comes down to it, all the bluster in the world means nothing without substance to back it up. For all his talk, Muhammad Ali faced all comers, always putting his money where his mouth was. So when he calls himself ‘The Greatest’, you may not agree, but he certainly earned his way into the conversation. [Click Here To Read More]

can't believe somebody other than Jake can actually put together a good read around here ....nice article....everytime somebody asks me what do have against Floyd...my reply is similiar to this well written article above

[King Of Ring]

floyd is biggest ducker ever

[punchmehard]

This.......



Floyd is on vacation because Manny don't want to accept the tests.
At this point I don't even care if the fight happens because **** is over
drawn.

LOL, and what defense do you have for "i am not thinking about boxing right now"? he is on duckation.

[GRUSTLER]

LOL, and what defense do you have for "i am not thinking about boxing right now"? he is on duckation.

I mean, come on man! We all agree that Floyd said he is not thinking
about boxing and it should be the opposite but the whole reason
why this fight never happened when it was supposed to almost a
year ago was because the random blood tests. Are you denying
that? Sure I can say Floyd said he is going on vacation but before
that, he tried to make the fight with Manny Pacquiao happen. Right
or wrong? If Pacquiao would not have called off the fight because
of the tests, we would have already witnessed and knew who was
the best. Right or wrong? I mean, I can understand if Floyd said
"NO" to one of Manny demands and stepped off, then it would
be on him but that is not the case. Floyd agreed to Manny demands
no matter how much he was asking. All Floyd asked for was random
blood tests to make the fight happen and Manny couldn't even
oblige that. Is that the truth or not? All of you are acting like
Floyd NEVER intended to make the fight happen (Same as Mosley).
Pacquiao was/is the real hold up. Sure Floyd could have stayed
and pushed for the fight but if Manny ain't agreeing to Floyd's terms
then why even force him? Pac has to want to take the tests.
NO ONE can make him.

[AFighter4U]

I mean, come on man! We all agree that Floyd said he is not thinking
about boxing and it should be the opposite but the whole reason
why this fight never happened when it was supposed to almost a
year ago was because the random blood tests. Are you denying
that? Sure I can say Floyd said he is going on vacation but before
that, he tried to make the fight with Manny Pacquiao happen. Right
or wrong? If Pacquiao would not have called off the fight because
of the tests, we would have already witnessed and knew who was
the best. Right or wrong? I mean, I can understand if Floyd said
"NO" to one of Manny demands and stepped off, then it would
be on him but that is not the case. Floyd agreed to Manny demands
no matter how much he was asking. All Floyd asked for was random
blood tests to make the fight happen and Manny couldn't even
oblige that. Is that the truth or not? All of you are acting like
Floyd NEVER intended to make the fight happen (Same as Mosley).
Pacquiao was/is the real hold up. Sure Floyd could have stayed
and pushed for the fight but if Manny ain't agreeing to Floyd's terms
then why even force him? Pac has to want to take the tests.
NO ONE can make him.

Floyd already previously OFFERED a 14 day cutoff, and EVERYONE at Golden Boy agreed that it was more than fair.

If it was fair then, why isn't it fair now?

The only one preventing this fight is floyd.

[GRUSTLER]

- Hatton and Cotto were next in line ...... after Gatti, Floyd fight who?

- Cotto said .. think it through ... does it means no?

- Did I even watch the fight? ... Yes but not in HBO version.

ESPN’s Dan Rafeal reported on this. The reason for the split between Mayweather and Top Rank was reported as follows in Rafeal’s 2006 article on ESPN.com.

“Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.

The thinking through of Cotto was a yes and he was not hell scared (that guy SKILLS_vs_PILLS was assuming a lot). The irony there, Cotto fought Margarito whom Mayweather avoided.

To clarify, Cotto and Mayweather did not duck each other.

Ok hold up. Your saying that Mayweather avoided Margarito but
you post a quote stating why the fight didn't happen? I don't
get you. Cotto and Hatton were next to fight Floyd and the fight(s)
didn't happen. Hatton team said they needed more time and Arum
didn't want to put Cotto in with Floyd and that's why he moved up
to WW and vacated his title at 140. I don't think any fighter is
scared because it takes a lot to train and fight but at the end of
the discussion. Cotto wasn't ready when Floyd was so how can
Floyd have ducked Cotto? Cotto had to get his stats up to have
a chance at Floyd. All of a sudden Floyd ducked Cotto? That's
some backwards thinking right there. Would you fight Margarito,
or go after the Lineal championship and then Oscar? You guys
kill me with this ducking label put on Floyd. Oscar at 154 had
a better chance at beating Floyd, then Margarito at 147 in my
opinion. Oscar had size, reach, gloves, ring, Roach and he sparred
with Mosley.

"We're looking for guys like Ricky Hatton and 'Pretty Boy' Floyd Mayweather. So you're seeing now the finishing touches on the emerging superstar, and in 2006 hopefully he will be able to claim the mantle of the real, real superstar."

Hatton emerged as the recognized 140-pound champion with his TKO of Kostya Tszyu June 11. Mayweather, the pound-for-pound king who is also promoted by Arum, stopped Arturo Gatti to claim a junior welterweight title two weeks later.

Cotto against either man would certainly qualify as a super fight, but before either match can be explored seriously, he has to keep winning."

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...dan&id=2168999

Margarito, however, must himself first get past a difficult defense in Atlantic City on Dec. 2 against Joshua Clottey, whose only loss was a disqualification against Baldomir in a 1999 bout he was winning on the scorecards. If Margarito prevails against Clottey, his eyes appear to be less on Williams than on the victor of Saturday's contest.

"The only two threats I see at 147 pounds are Mayweather and Baldomir," Margarito recently told ESPN.com over brunch in Las Vegas. He will have, he said, a rooting interest Saturday night. This is for the people that keep saying $8MIL for Antonio Margarito was SO MUCH for PBF to refuse:

On July 22, Baldomir knocked out fan favorite Arturo Gatti to cement his place as a legitimate champion rather than a one-fight aberration. Promoter Dan Goossen then stepped in to table a deal that contained enough money to make both sides happy (reportedly matching the $8 million Mayweather had been offered by Arum to fight Margarito), paving the way for Saturday's fight.

"The only significant fight for Mayweather at junior welterweight would have been a unification fight with division kingpin Ricky Hatton, "but he's not even looking Floyd's way until at least 2007," Ellerbe said. "So there's no need to hold up the belt and the division. The only reason to keep the title would be to make a big fight at 140 in a unification fight with Hatton, but that isn't in the cards right now. So Floyd has given up the title. This way guys like Witter and Corley will have the opportunity to fight for the title and the opportunity to reach their dream."

I mean, it's cool to have an opinion but it's not cool for people
to continue to make up facts that NEVER even happened. Cotto
and Hatton wasn't ready and Arum wasn't trying to oblige Mayweathers
demands, simple as that. It's documented. Arum has been running
the same campaign about Floyd being scared of his fighters but
he hates and refuses to break bread with Floyd. Don't take my word
for it. Just ask Arum himself.........

Arum wants Pacquiao-Mayweather?
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"It's not so much that I give a damn whether this fight happens -- I don't -- and for me it's not the greatest experience doing a promotion with Floyd Mayweather," Arum said. "But not to do this fight would slow down the momentum of boxing." [/http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=4672323

I know that these quotes and facts don't mean anything on
Boxingscene because all it really is, is hate on here. the truth
is the truth and that's what I'm about.

[GRUSTLER]

Floyd already previously OFFERED a 14 day cutoff, and EVERYONE at Golden Boy agreed that it was more than fair.

If it was fair then, why isn't it fair now?

The only one preventing this fight is floyd.

Floyd said after Mosley that it was off the table, and up to the
day of the fight loud and clear in the ring and then all of a sudden
Manny Pacquiao agrees to 14 days? Now we find out after Pacquiao supposedly agreed to 14 days that he said himself that he is not
mentally ready for the tests? Which excuse is it? Let me ask you
some questions. Why didn't Pac agree to the 14 day random blood
test request in the first place? Why agree now and not when
it was next to a done deal? Why does Manny keep flip flopping
on the subject? Answer me these questions.

[AFighter4U]

Floyd said after Mosley that it was off the table, and up to the
day of the fight loud and clear in the ring and then all of a sudden
Manny Pacquiao agrees to 14 days? Now we find out after Pacquiao supposedly agreed to 14 days that he said himself that he is not
mentally ready for the tests? Which excuse is it? Let me ask you
some questions. Why didn't Pac agree to the 14 day random blood
test request in the first place? Why agree now and not when
it was next to a done deal? Why does Manny keep flip flopping
on the subject? Answer me these questions.

Of course Pac keeps changing his mind. He went from 30 days cutoff, to 24 days, to 7 (not 14) days cutoff.

Floyd went from 0 days cutoff to 14 days and BACK TO 0 days CUTOFF.

Indeed it was foolish for Pac not to agree to the 14 days when it was originally offered, but since he already agreed to the 7 days, what is stopping floyd from agreeing to an even shorter time frame than he originally offered previously?

Pac has been consistently lowering his time frame, and i do hope that he'd eventually agree to a 0 day cutoff. But really now. The ball is now on Floyd's court and all he has to do is to agree to a 7 day cutoff and the fight could be EASILY arranged for later this year.

You cannot seriously think Pac can take something within six days when he's just tapering off his training and cooling down to change him from what floyd considers an easy money fight to someone his father does not want floyd to face for the sake of his safety?

Yes, Mosley did take those PEDS, and wasn't caught but he took them for several weeks and HE STILL LOST TO DELA HOYA.

All this drug testing hoopla is just hype and a flimsy excuse to avoid fighting Pac.

[gwildcat77]

Floyds excuses

1ST EXCUSE.. "can we do blood testing on PAC?" 2ND EXCUSE.. "I want more than 50/50 split because I beat overaged SHANE MOSLEY" 3RD EXCUSE.. "Uncle might be in jail cause he assaulted a girl".. 4TH EXCUSE.. "I'm just not thinking about BOXING right now.." 5TH EXCUSE... he didn't make one.. he just stayed quiet when BOB ARUM tried to call his ass....