Comments Thread For: Floyd Mayweather Jr: The Great Disappointment

[JSS]

It is funny to me how Pac fans bring up Manny and say
how "extraordinary" it was for Pac to move up and fight
bigger guys but once a REAL CHALLENGE (Sergio Martinez)
at the higher weight wanted his title back that he had to
vacate. All of a sudden Manny is too small? That goes
to show who Manny has been fighting. Martinez offered
to put his middleweight title up at 154 and Team Pac
still refused. It was a big statement for Martinez to
say that Floyd would fight him before Pacquiao because
Floyd ain't even fighting, talking or thinking about boxing.
Manny is a hype job. Good fighter but not great. P4P #1,
flip flopper.

And who else has accomplished what Pacquiao has done? Mayweather Jr. or Sr. or Roger; NO. Any of the past greats (Ali, Leonard, Duran,...etic); NO. Haters go'n hate...

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It's amazing how critical you can be of manny's career while completely ignoring the bums on Floyds resume. Manny has catchweight fights and the such, but the point is he fought these guys. Floyd didn't! And he won't! And I'm not gonna in turn be critical of Floyd but it's nothing special about his resume. You gave me a good laugh tho, PAC fought the weakest in the division in Diaz. Floyd only fights the weakest of divisions to secure titles.(like baldomir) if you think people are gonna remember PAC for catchweights and drugs tests you're being unrealistic. People remember fights, period!!! Not what weight they were fought at, the fight! Who won who lost and who knocked out or beat up. Pac will have fights on his side, Floyd will have what? Blame arum if you want for the fight not happening but I don't believe that. He's too greedy not to want his peice of that pie. Blame floyd for pac's opposition because if that fight with floyd could be signed, he wouldn't have to fight these fill ins for entertainment as you say. And to draw comparison between Floyd beating castillio and PAC struggling with Marquez, really who is the better fighter? Who is a hall of famer? Marquez! Not castillio. I can go on and will if you need me too, when I first got on this site you were one of the first guys opinion I respected but I'm tired of having people defend floyd in such a manner! If he fights for Money, then that's what it is and I can respect a man for trying to get paid! Just don't tell me your the best to ever do it cuz you're not! And he's not!

All I am doing is telling the truth. Does Manny fighting at catchweights
and fighters coming off loses make him greater than Floyd for not doing
it?

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And who else has accomplished what Pacquiao has done? Mayweather Jr. or Sr. or Roger; NO. Any of the past greats (Ali, Leonard, Duran,...etic); NO. Haters go'n hate...

What has Pacquiao done? Fought 3 guys Floyd alread beat? Fight
title fights at catchweights? Duck blood tests? I am curious to
know what makes Pac so great? How can Floyd be scrutinized
when Manny has the most blemishes on his records because of
his carefully picked ready made fights? When Floyd fought Mosley
he was the #1 WW and Manny conveniently avoided him. When
Floyd fought Shane, Shane was a threat but now that Pac is
fighting him, it is a mismatch. Floyd's win over Shane trumps Pacs
wins over Oscar, Cotto and Clottey at 147. Floyd win over Oscar
at the OFFICIAL 154 weight limit, trumps Pac's catchweight title
fight at 151 against a non ranked fighter in Margarito. Floyd career
at 130 is by far more impressive than Pac's. Are you debating that?
135, Floyd also trumps Pac with Castillo over Diaz. Do you deny
all of these facts? The 140 win over Hatton was good but Floyd
already KO'd that ass and fought more when he was at 140 then
Pac did. Pacquiao is only fighting guys that he saw lose or struggle
in their last fight. When was the last time Floyd fought someone
coming off of a losing streak or bad performance like Pac? Tell me.

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[QUOTE=GRUSTLER;9883329]All I doing is telling the truth. Does Manny fighting at catchweights
and fighters coming off loses make him greater than Floyd for not doing
Didn't Floyd fight Zab coming off a loss? I'm not sure and if I'm wrong, my bad. But it's the sport. And I'm not faulting Floyd for fighting zab because he is a better win than baldomir. It's just that how that situation was handled is how Floyd wants to operate. And easy win has belts so let's fight him. Somebody said if a Hatton rematch was on the table Floyd would sign today! I believe that! And how does that make him and PAC so different? To me it doesn't! They are both playing the same game. Right?

[ReUterZ]

I don't agree with everything the writer said but one thing is true
and that is Floyd lost the hunger to be competitive. Hope he gets
it back SOON.

You got it right and due to that reason "Floyd lost the hunger to be competitive", he messed up and the writer outpoint most negative in a descent manner.

Hunger is gone and ego is taking the position.

That SOON is the most awaited one and pick Pacquiao instead of Khan.

Dont worry with the brittle hands, Xylo is not a banned substance.

[JSS]

What has Pacquiao done? Fought 3 guys Floyd alread beat? Fight
title fights at catchweights? Duck blood tests? I am curious to
know what makes Pac so great? How can Floyd be scrutinized
when Manny has the most blemishes on his records because of
his carefully picked ready made fights? When Floyd fought Mosley
he was the #1 WW and Manny conveniently avoided him. When
Floyd fought Shane, Shane was a threat but now that Pac is
fighting him, it is a mismatch. Floyd's win over Shane trumps Pacs
wins over Oscar, Cotto and Clottey at 147. Floyd win over Oscar
at the OFFICIAL 154 weight limit, trumps Pac's catchweight title
fight at 151 against a non ranked fighter in Margarito. Floyd career
at 130 is by far more impressive than Pac's. Are you debating that?
135, Floyd also trumps Pac with Castillo over Diaz. Do you deny
all of these facts? The 140 win over Hatton was good but Floyd
already KO'd that ass and fought more when he was at 140 then
Pac did. Pacquiao is only fighting guys that he saw lose or struggle
in their last fight. When was the last time Floyd fought someone
coming off of a losing streak or bad performance like Pac? Tell me.

8 belts at 8 different weight divisions. As if you didn't know what I was talking about. All the May-nevers havn't even come close to that...and stop with the catchweights thing. Catch weights have been going on in boxing of the the longest time and you bring it up won't stop it from happening in the future. D.u.m.b.a.s.s!

[JSS]

What has Pacquiao done? Fought 3 guys Floyd alread beat? Fight
title fights at catchweights? Duck blood tests? I am curious to
know what makes Pac so great? How can Floyd be scrutinized
when Manny has the most blemishes on his records because of
his carefully picked ready made fights? When Floyd fought Mosley
he was the #1 WW and Manny conveniently avoided him. When
Floyd fought Shane, Shane was a threat but now that Pac is
fighting him, it is a mismatch. Floyd's win over Shane trumps Pacs
wins over Oscar, Cotto and Clottey at 147. Floyd win over Oscar
at the OFFICIAL 154 weight limit, trumps Pac's catchweight title
fight at 151 against a non ranked fighter in Margarito. Floyd career
at 130 is by far more impressive than Pac's. Are you debating that?
135, Floyd also trumps Pac with Castillo over Diaz. Do you deny
all of these facts? The 140 win over Hatton was good but Floyd
already KO'd that ass and fought more when he was at 140 then
Pac did. Pacquiao is only fighting guys that he saw lose or struggle
in their last fight. When was the last time Floyd fought someone
coming off of a losing streak or bad performance like Pac? Tell me.

If fraud is all what you say he is...why dosen't he fight Manny? Don't say OSDT, b/c there is no presidence for that type of drug testing. Only an old man's spitfilled words as Pacquiao KO'd his ward in 2 rounds. W/c was faster then may-never did when he told Hatton to come up to 147lbs.

[Walterson]

What has Pacquiao done? Fought 3 guys Floyd alread beat? Fight
title fights at catchweights? Duck blood tests? I am curious to
know what makes Pac so great? How can Floyd be scrutinized
when Manny has the most blemishes on his records because of
his carefully picked ready made fights? When Floyd fought Mosley
he was the #1 WW and Manny conveniently avoided him. When
Floyd fought Shane, Shane was a threat but now that Pac is
fighting him, it is a mismatch. Floyd's win over Shane trumps Pacs
wins over Oscar, Cotto and Clottey at 147. Floyd win over Oscar
at the OFFICIAL 154 weight limit, trumps Pac's catchweight title
fight at 151 against a non ranked fighter in Margarito. Floyd career
at 130 is by far more impressive than Pac's. Are you debating that?
135, Floyd also trumps Pac with Castillo over Diaz. Do you deny
all of these facts? The 140 win over Hatton was good but Floyd
already KO'd that ass and fought more when he was at 140 then
Pac did. Pacquiao is only fighting guys that he saw lose or struggle
in their last fight. When was the last time Floyd fought someone
coming off of a losing streak or bad performance like Pac? Tell me.

Taking 'em to the cleaners Grustler! Green K

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Does Manny fighting at catchweights
and fighters coming off loses make him greater than Floyd for not doing
Didn't Floyd fight Zab coming off a loss? I'm not sure and if I'm wrong, my bad. But it's the sport. And I'm not faulting Floyd for fighting zab because he is a better win than baldomir. It's just that how that situation was handled is how Floyd wants to operate. And easy win has belts so let's fight him. Somebody said if a Hatton rematch was on the table Floyd would sign today! I believe that! And how does that make him and PAC so different? To me it doesn't! They are both playing the same game. Right?

Ummm... if you knew anything about the sport then you would
know that Floyd already signed to fight Zab because no one thought
Zab would lose against Baldomir but Zab did and Floyd still honored
his contract and fought Zab then Baldomir. Zab (Former Undisputed
champion) and Baldomir (Lineal Champion) When was the last time
Pac did that? They are both playing the same game but Pacquiao
is trying to get away with not be scrutinized for it. Nothing wrong
with fighting guys coming off loss's but come on man. When was the
last time Pac fought someone who was winning or coming off a solid
performance?

Cotto won a bloody and highly competitive split decision against Joshua Clottey on Saturday to retain his version of the welterweight
crown. Pacquiao sat ringside with Arum and told him during the fight, in which Cotto struggled at times, that he wanted to fight Cotto next.

http://espn.go.com/sports/boxing/blo...s-bid-pacquiao

People think I am making excuses for Floyd and hating on Pac
but all I am doing is stating the obvious.

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If fraud is all what you say he is...why dosen't he fight Manny? Don't say OSDT, b/c there is no presidence for that type of drug testing. Only an old man's spitfilled words as Pacquiao KO'd his ward in 2 rounds. W/c was faster then may-never did when he told Hatton to come up to 147lbs.

This is the reason Floyd didn't fight Manny.

When they could not come to an agreement, Top Rank and Golden Boy Promotions, which represents Mayweather, turned to a mediator, retired judge Daniel Weinstein, who had successfully mediated a series of disputes between Top Rank and Golden Boy in 2007.

But after nine hours in mediation on Tuesday in Santa Monica, Calif., and further attempts to come to a resolution on Wednesday failed, the fight was pronounced dead by the Pacquiao camp.

Your talking about don't talk about OST's but that was the key
to making the fight and Manny opted to walk away and fight
Clottey who lost to Cotto who Pac beat Prior.