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I do agree that a fighter with speed and power could give Wlad alot of trouble. I just don't think Haye is that fighter. I think either Klit stops him late. His best bet would be to pick Wlad and jump on his ass right off the bat. Wlad looks incredibly uncomfortable while being swung on and usually looks to tie up when a fighter gets in close. Haye would have to take alot of chances and not get tied up.He can't win down the stretch.
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FAO: subtraction
Wlad has improved greatly under the tutelage of Emanuel Steward. He hasn't been down or hurt in almost 6 years. He dominates and KOs all of his opponents, has cleaned out the HW division and hasn't lost a single round in almost 6 years.
You're overrating Haye's power and underrating Wlad's chin.
Wlad has a much better chin than Haye, who has been knocked down, badly hurt and KO'd by super middleweights, light heavyweights, cruiserweights and old washed up HW bums.
Haye has looked awful at HW.
- he blatantly ducked the Klitschkos.
- got knocked down and badly hurt by old shot Barrett, who was coming off a 2nd round KO loss to tomato can Cliff Couser.
- struggled and and lost rounds to 40 year old shot to pieces Ruiz, who was landing SLOW JABS AT WILL and slow right hands on the defenceless vulnerable Haye. Haye was stunned, hurt and the ropes saved him from getting knocked down.
- looked awful against 40 year old BUM Fraudley Harrison, who didn't even throw a single punch and took a dive. Fraudley should've retired 4 years ago after he got brutally KTFO in 3 rounds by journeyman Sprott.
- ran like a scared little girl from old slow Valuev the whole fight and set the all time record for fewest punches thown in a 12 round fight. That was a boring, unwatchable, awful, cowardly, pathetic performance by that pussy Haye. Valuev got robbed. Even the biased British commentators had Valuev winning the fight.
Like I said before, Grandpa Holyfield did better against Valuev than Haye did.
Wlad destroyed the REAL WBA HW Champ Ruslan Chagaev, who clearly beat Prime Valuev in impressive fashion.
Haye is the definition of a paper champion
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Wlad's impressive resume is 1,000,000,000 times better than cherry picker Haye's weak resume.
Wladimir Klitschko
- ATG and HOF
- Most dominant fighter in the world
- Has cleaned out the HW division
- IBF/WBO/IBO/RING Unified heavyweight champion of the world
- Olympic Gold Medalist
- 49 KOs in 55 wins
- Has made 16 dominant world title defences
- Has defeated 8 world heavyweight champions:
Chris Byrd I (31-1)
Chris Byrd II (39-2)
Sam Peter I (24-0)
Sam Peter II (34-3)
Ruslan Chagaev (25-0)
Sultan Ibragimov (22-0)
Lamon Brewster (33-3)
Hasim Rahman (45-5)
Francois Botha (44-3)
Ray Mercer (30-4)
- has defeated tons of top contenders:
Eddie Chambers (35-1)
Calvin Brock (29-0)
Tony Thompson (31-1)
Jameel McCline (28-2)
Monte Barrett (23-0)
Ray Austin (24-3)
DaVarryl Williamson (20-2)
Axel Schulz (26-3)
Derrick Jefferson (23-2)
Charles Shufford (17-1)
Eliseo Castillo (18-0)
etc.....
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Why does anyone waste their breath on the people who are ****** enough to buy into the Haye hype?
I've just been throwing them on ignore and this board has become a lot more enjoyable by eliminating the people who are clearly just trolls with a Pro-Gaye or anti-Klitschko agenda.
Like yesterday, one of the Haye f@ggots said Corrie Sanders was a journeyman. So I put him on ignore. What can he possibly have to say going forward that I am going to take seriously?Comment
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It's official...Haye is the top dog. Of course everyone already knows it, but to get the seal of approval from Evander Holyfield is the ultimate. Of course all the internet bums on these boards with their man boobs and jelly bellies think they know more about Boxing than professional fighters like Evander and The Devil....but that's OK as long as you pigs keep buying fights.Comment
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good points.....both brothers easily have my vote for ATG's, & I believe wlad will take Haye's belt by decision with that big jab. all these guys he has beaten over the past few fights (most recently when fat, i mean fast eddie was talkin junk) they all cower down/get scared/realize they are facing a monster/real life Ivan Drago & they can't do **** against that jab because he's got that terrifying big righthand ****ed and ready to destroy them. I would bet that there is nobody in boxing that can or will ever beat them. these guys talk **** but then get in the ring & get scared.Comment
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The Klits
Unless Haye can consistently get around the jabs and the clubbing right hands and get close enough to throw without getting tied up which the Klits are known for (Manny's schooling) he has a very good chance. But if he stays outside and allows the Klits to set the tempo he's done. Furthermore, Hayes management needs to express a major concern to the Ref for the holding the Klits do and start deducting points for it because at 6'7" a fighter has to get close to fight and the Klits know this by way of Manny so instead of teaching shoulder in close fighting techniques he advises his fighters to clinch and hold. Check the Marvin Hagler Tommy Hearns Battle once Marvin got through the right hand it was over at that point because Marvin bullied Tommie in close ! In brief the Klits can't fight in close they want to keep the distance and stick the long jab in your face and follow with the right hand and hook off the Jab (Manny's schooling) !
Haye can counter this if the ref allows for inside fighting and stops the Klits from holding and make him fight.
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