Russ Anber on Pascal vs Hopkins. He makes sense.

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I don't think any of you have an idea of just how sick and tired I am of listening to people who make accusatory comments regarding the decision of the fight, as well as making statements in which they are completely void of the proper information.

Let me try and set the record straight on some misguided information which has made its way into the media.

1. Fact: the referee is a Canadian named Mike Griffin. Mike is undoubtedly one of the best referees in the world, bar none!! His job in this fight was perfect. His nationality made absolutely no difference in the fight. In fact his work was beyond exemplary.

DD:you act as if the ref is infallible, when he is human, and either it was incompetence or a mistake, with the KD, i say it was a POOR mistake, because he was a smei decent ref for the rest of the fight.

2. Fact: there were three appointed judges for the fight. One American, one Canadian and one neutral judge from Belgium. These judges are appointed by the WBC and not the Quebec Boxing Commission. It appears by the scorecards, that the only one who was biased was the American judge. He had Pascal only winning three of the first five rounds and only gave Pascal one round the rest of the way. With that being said he still had the fight close at 114-112.
DD:
this is a strawman argument and you're trying to discredit the only judge who scored the fight right with the use of biased, like the canadian ref was not biased!?!?! STRAWMAN

3. Fact: The Canadian judge should be commended for his neutrality in submitting an even 113-113. His card virtually matched the neutral judges card round for round, in fact the Canadian judge gave Hopkins the 10th while the Belgian judge scored it even.
DD:
a round in which was a CLEAR hopkins round. and to score a even round in a title fight within a round that wasn't even close, it was a travesty at best and that is being polite.... that judge should be reviewed to see if he is in fact competent to score a fight let alone a world title fight.


4. Fact: Bernard Hopkins won more rounds than Jean Pascal. However, boxing is scored by points and not by rounds. The two knockdowns scored by Pascal early clearly made the difference and saved his titles in the end.

DD:
2 KD's do not win you a fight, i had the fight 114-112 hopkins, scoring both kd rounds as 10-8, and i gave pascal the 8th round. that makes it 7 rounds to 5, which is more points........... you really can't make a case that pascal won 4 or 5 rounds, i've seen the fight enough times and i cannot for the life of me with good conscience score more for pascal, because they aren't there, not without help from the judges, especially the no country having belgium so called judge.

You can view the official scorecards of the judges by clicking here: http://www.*********.com/Boxing/pasc...784#more-70784

What was even more de****able were the erroneous and false comments rendered by both Golden Boy Promotions and Bernard Hopkins after the fight in which they blamed everyone in Quebec, in Canada, and the man on the grassy knoll, in conspiring to rob him.

While being in Pascal's corner certainly removes me from any point of neutrality, let me state a few more actual facts.

Showtime analyst Antonio Tarver had the fight scored 114-112 for Pascal, Stephen Brunt of Toronto's Globe and Mail had it even at 113-113, and Dan Rafael of ESPN.com had it in Hopkins' favour at 114-112. The fight was simply that tight.
DD:
tarvers scorecard is a joke of the worst proportions, because he had hopkins down by a round going into the 8th, 67-66 for pascal, how in the hell did he score the REST of the fight to get 114-112 for pascal, he would've had to score 2 of the last four rounds for pascal, which there is and was no case for pascal winning 2 out of the 4 rounds.


and for the record sake, the 12th round was all hopkins because not only did he get the better of the exchanges, he pushed the action, and made the fight happen, because pascal was more than willing to back pedal and run to try and coast the rest of the fight, but the fight was taken to him by hopkins.

throughout the fight hopkins threw more, landed more, had pascal hurt more throughout the fight, and was the effective aggressor, despite having a illegal and legit knockdown scored against him......... not once in this fight did pascal take control, dominate, or even dictate the pace........... the challenger did.........

Here is an excerpt from Chris Mannix of Sports Illustrated.com:

"We now know this about Hopkins: He can still fight. He didn't get robbed in Canada. For all of Hopkins complaining about the referee, for all of Richard Schaefer's huffing and puffing about seeking legal remedies to overturn the decision, Hopkins got a fair shake. Two judges scored it a draw while another gave Hopkins a narrow win. Screwed? The New York Daily News's Tim Smith had Hopkins by a point, the Philadelphia Inquirer's Don Steinberg had Pascal by the same margin. Me? I had it even."

While controversies are the last thing we need, great fights and great crowds make boxing a great sport. This past Saturday night Groupe Yvon Michel proved that they take a backseat to no one in putting on world class events. The 16,000 in attendance and the millions watching around the world can attest to that fact. Testimony of that came earlier this week from ESPN's Joe Tessitore, who called Montreal and Quebec City "the two best fights cities in North America". A bold statement in an ocean of boxing cities across the continent in which Tessitore and the entire ESPN crew have travelled.

Like the song goes, "Nobody does it better...."!

As for Jean Pascal and Bernard Hopkins, their greatness shone in a twenty-foot ring, as they battled back and forth in a fight that will go down as one of, if not the, best fight of the year for 2010.

Finally, to all of you out there who continue to support boxing and who would love to have In This Corner back, let me take this moment to wish all of you a healthy and happy holiday season and here's to more great boxing in 2011.

Fact: Hopkins was Hit in the back of the head.

Whether it was Legitimate or not is one Question.

But Referee should not have allowed it, to set an example that nobody would be rewarded for targeting that area.
It also turned a 10-9 Hopkins round into a 10-8 Pascal.

He did a decent job after that, but that mistake in the first round made the difference.

Fact: From the Draw, Pascal won, Hopkins Lost.

Which is why they did not have to Give Pascal the Win. Giving Pascal the Draw was sufficient. Pascal got to keep his belt anyway, he didn't have to win.

P.S Im not from Canada or the US.

a draw is a total win, and it was a damage control win, a premeditated decision if the situation were to arrive.

Get the **** outta here with that. Hopkins won that fight hands down and fcuk everybody that saying hopkins didn't deserve that win. They committed the biggest crime robbing an old man who put everything he had into that fight. We saw something special that night from a 46 y/o man and they denied him history. I never felt so hurt and disgusted at boxing before in my life

I lost a lot of Respect for Tarver saying that he had Pascal winning by 1 point. jealousy is a *****, shame on everyone that doesn't wanna admit the facts

tarver was and is a total shill in this case, it's obvious that he and showtime are like hbo, they're all about their monetary interest, pascal.......


more harm was done to pascal in this fight than to hopkins, pascal is in damage control, the draw was one of the worst things they could've done for pascal, because it's being perceived as a win, and he will learn nothing from it, thinking, as pascal says in his own words " a draw is good enough for me in this fight"

[Albo Dakkid]

more harm was done to pascal in this fight than to hopkins, pascal is in damage control, the draw was one of the worst things they could've done for pascal, because it's being perceived as a win, and he will learn nothing from it, thinking, as pascal says in his own words " a draw is good enough for me in this fight"

I feel what' you're saying and I agree but I could care less about Pascal. I wanted to see a HOF like Hopkins make history. It hurt me to see him so hurt from that decision cause this man clearly deserved glory that night

[ИATAS]

Augustus scored the fight for hopkins. This was shown in a different thread.

[Albo Dakkid]

Augustus scored the fight for hopkins. This was shown in a different thread.

Who Emannuel Agustus? He was robbed against Frankie Figuroa at an old age as well and he knows the pain of a robbery.

Respect to him!

[Iceta Lives]

How is this suprising that Russ Anber is trying to mask the fact his own fighter got dominated? The punch stats were in Hopkins' favor in every category from body punch to power punch and it wasn't even close. At least he's not claiming Pascal won though.

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I like ESPN's quote better:

Hopkins is the uncrowned champion after dominating most of the fight against Pascal on Dec. 18. Just a few weeks shy of his 46th birthday (and bidding to become the oldest world champion in history), Hopkins outworked and outpunched Pascal, who was gassed after about five rounds. As Hopkins said after the fight, "He ran from an old grandpa." Yes, he did, and Hopkins deserved the victory and the accompanying piece of history. - ESPN

I also like how Montreal paper scored it 115-111 for Hopkins and blatantly said Pascal benefited from a hometown decision

http://www.montrealgazette.com/technology/Jean+Pascal+retains+crown+controversial+draw/3999663/story.html

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Except that isn't a fact. It was on the borderline of back and side of the head. A call had to be made one way or the other. How many camera angles have you seen of the shot? Because I can't comfortably make a decision one way or the other with the angle I saw on TV.

\Read what i said

fact is the referee should not give those as Knockdowns/Knockouts.

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I like ESPN's quote better:

Hopkins is the uncrowned champion after dominating most of the fight against Pascal on Dec. 18. Just a few weeks shy of his 46th birthday (and bidding to become the oldest world champion in history), Hopkins outworked and outpunched Pascal, who was gassed after about five rounds. As Hopkins said after the fight, "He ran from an old grandpa." Yes, he did, and Hopkins deserved the victory and the accompanying piece of history. - ESPN

I also like how Montreal paper scored it 115-111 for Hopkins and blatantly said Pascal benefited from a hometown decision

http://www.montrealgazette.com/techn...663/story.html

well lol
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