Iceman John Scully

[Super_Lightweight]

I have on dvd Roy Jones sparring with this much bigger, white ox of a man named Scully. Looks like a lightheavyweight or a cruiserweight. Is that you, Iceman? Would you like to tell some stories of sparring with Roy? Looked like you two really went to war at times in those sessions.

[Super_Lightweight]

hmm

Reply ICEMAN!

[JUYJUY]

Scully hasn't been on this forum for a good three or four months now.

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

Sparring Rj...............

The DVD you saw... if the white guy is in a red franklin headgear and wearing black and yellow spandex shorts then yes that is ME. That was at Sugar Ray Leonard's gym in Maryland and the work was great. If you watch the tape you can see at the end of both of the rounds we both finished very strongly with a lot of punches. Gerald McClellan was also in camp with us that week and Sugar Ray, too, of course.

[Super_Lightweight]

hmm

What was it like sparring both of them? I bet you held your own well. Contrast how it was sparring those guys, if ya don't mind. Thanks, dude.

[JUYJUY]

I spoke too soon

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

Actually.........

In my book I have a whole long chapter all about working with RJ and being around him for some of his biggest fights as both amateurs and professionals. I didn't spar Gerald that week because his jaw was still sore from when he had just fought (and defeated RJ) in the nationals less than two month earlier.

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

Clip from my book on RJ .............

Later on in 1988, at the National Golden Gloves, Roy won his first three matches. The first one was a decision over Thomas Tate. He also scored a 3rd. round stoppage over defending National 165 pound Champion and Future NABF Champion Fabian Williams. Those victories set up a fight that someone should have taped for obvious reasons. The semifinal match was Roy Jones taking on Gerald McClellan. You would expect this fight to be very exciting. It was more than that. It was a WAR. One of the greatest examples of speed and power that I have seen in an amateur Boxing match. I remember that Roy was forced back to the ropes often in the fight but that what made the fight so thrilling was the way Roy would FURIOUSLY fight off the ropes with flurries. It was like watching two Olympic athletes fight for the Gold Medal or two guys going for the world professional championship.

Omaha World-Herald: "Two 1987 Champs, 156 pounder Roy L. Jones of Knoxville and 132 pound Donald Stokes of Louisiana, were eliminated last night.

Gerald McClellan of Milwaukee crowded Jones most of the first two rounds in pounding out a decision triumph. The 156 pound McClellan was there to slug with Jones from the opening bell, and carried the first round. Jones spent a lot of that time along the ropes.

Jones showed some movement in a fairly close second and then scored well in the early part of the third. McClellan was stronger at the finish when he again pounded Jones along the ropes and in a corner."


I saw Gerald a month later at Sugar Ray's training Camp in Maryland and he told me he wouldn't be able to spar for a while longer because his jaw was still hurting from the fight with Roy.

(A very interesting thing that came out of the relationship between Roy and Sugar is the fact that Roy Jones Sr. has a video tape of Lil' Roy and the Sugarman sparring with each other while Roy was still an amateur. I wonder how much would a collector pay to view that tape?? I visited Pensacola in July of this year (2003) and, as usual, I stopped in to see Big Roy train the amateurs in the gym on his property. I brought up the tape and told him I know for sure that he could get that it on-line and make a good chunk of money selling copies of it. I had a guy that sells video tapes on the internet tell me that one of his biggest sellers was the two rounds of sparring he has on tape of Roy and I going at it as amateurs. Imagine what Roy and Sugar Ray Leonard on tape would go for?? The funny thing is... what is important to one person is not always important to another. Not only did Big Roy have no interest in parting with the video but I would be willing to guess that it would take him much more than a few minutes of searching his house to even find the thing. I guess after all he has seen his son do as a boxer, the sparring with Ray is in some ways just another sparring session that is on tape somewhere.)

[PBDS]

....Great stuff ICE!!

[dino]

What was it like sparring both of them? I bet you held your own well. Contrast how it was sparring those guys, if ya don't mind. Thanks, dude.

"i bet u held ur own well"...stop hugging his nuts