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  • IMDAZED
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    #11
    Originally posted by HandSpeed303
    I hear you...

    I do know one that has used just to cut weight (and not Mayorga).

    I'm sure many do it though. It is a sign of the times. Back in the day, you knew who was using (cause they stood out)...Nowadays, so many cats are on something, it is just natural to suspect.
    Nah, they still stand out for the most part, I think. Sometimes I laugh to myself when I'm watching fights. There are so many juicers, it's even easier to see who's not doing it these days then who is

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      #12
      Originally posted by cixthree
      You do understand that cheaters always stay ahead of the game right? That includes the OSDT...(So basically they should'nt do any tests, cheats are gonna beat them anyway?)

      They did not bust anyone from Balco...They obtained the list, and then handed out justice. OSDT does not catch all users. That is something people need to stop believing. Is it a better testing system? Sure, they test for more banned substances, and have other methods of testing (not just urine). The reason USADA can test for more is because, some drugs can only be detected by monitoring blood. Not just urine as you said above, you failed to mention that...
      Now to get to your question, I do belive the current commission system is updated. How often?(But you know that they are updated for certain?)I don't know that info... Well what do you know?

      Far as I know, almost every system in every sport is updated, based on the fact something new to enhance proformance is made every day...Or added to the banned substance list. WOW

      Matter of fact, I think that is what happens. The minute something is added, the system is updated to look for the in athletes... Matter of a fact I THINK?

      I could be very wrong though, I'm not an expert. No sir you are no expert, but what you are is an Idiot.
      This is one of the dudes I was talking about...

      Testing is life or death for this cat...

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        #13
        Originally posted by HandSpeed303
        This is one of the dudes I was talking about...

        Testing is life or death for this cat...
        Well it is a big issue, dog. I never thought about it until about 3-4 years ago, when I ran into one of the NSAC heads. And after a long conversation I was like, "damn, this is some ****ed up ****!" I keep saying it but the day the lid is blown off this scandal is the day boxing finally shapes up and gets it's **** together. It's that closely tied in.

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          #14
          Originally posted by cixthree
          You do understand that cheaters always stay ahead of the game right? That includes the OSDT...(So basically they should'nt do any tests, cheats are gonna beat them anyway?)

          They did not bust anyone from Balco...They obtained the list, and then handed out justice. OSDT does not catch all users. That is something people need to stop believing. Is it a better testing system? Sure, they test for more banned substances, and have other methods of testing (not just urine). The reason USADA can test for more is because, some drugs can only be detected by monitoring blood. Not just urine as you said above, you failed to mention that...
          Now to get to your question, I do belive the current commission system is updated. How often?(But you know that they are updated for certain?)I don't know that info... Well what do you know?

          Far as I know, almost every system in every sport is updated, based on the fact something new to enhance proformance is made every day...Or added to the banned substance list. WOW

          Matter of fact, I think that is what happens. The minute something is added, the system is updated to look for the in athletes... Matter of a fact I THINK?

          I could be very wrong though, I'm not an expert. No sir you are no expert, but what you are is an Idiot.
          Also, if you would have taken the time to read, instead of bleed from between your legs, you would have noticed I was not takinlg about just boxing, but testing in general.

          I was not defending anyone, just answering a question (with the knowledge I have had from being tested playing Football, and many others I know)..

          Some of you cats have had you lies ruined by this testing issue...That much is clear.

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          • ROSS CALIFORNIA
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            #15
            Just look what happened in baseball. This is a serious issue in this modern era of sports. If current testing can be fooled, they need to ask for stricter testing. Otherwise sensational boxers in todays era will always be suspected for future generations to come. Boxing history is very important to this sport, we are living history now, so its up to us to do the right thing and demand testing be done in the most full proof way possible.

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              #16
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              Well it is a big issue, dog. I never thought about it until about 3-4 years ago, when I ran into one of the NSAC heads. And after a long conversation I was like, "damn, this is some ****ed up ****!" I keep saying it but the day the lid is blown off this scandal is the day boxing finally shapes up and gets it's **** together. It's that closely tied in.
              That is not what I mean.

              It is nothing that keeps me up at night, or something I choose to talk about all day on here.

              That is waht that means.

              And I agree, it is a serious issue. You know where I stand on the issue, as we have talked about it many times.

              I didn't read past the bold, just thought I would clear that up.

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                #17
                Originally posted by HandSpeed303
                That is not what I mean.

                It is nothing that keeps me up at night, or something I choose to talk about all day on here.

                That is waht that means.

                And I agree, it is a serious issue. You know where I stand on the issue, as we have talked about it many times.

                I didn't read past the bold, just thought I would clear that up.
                You should. Actually not sure where you stand on the issue but it doesn't matter. Sadly, it looks like it may die with Floyd's retirement anyway.

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                  #18
                  Everyone above the age of 14 with reasonable knowledge of sport should know by now that most athletes(let alone boxers) are juicing. The most disturbing thing was how the media played dumb to the whole issue during the whole OST situation, guys like Doug Fischer claim to believe that Pacquiao is not on something, to not even have some form of su****ion is absolutely ridiculous. He and all the other "writers" know better and its because they dont want to expose the current state of boxing for what it is, you've really got to be a ****** to think the commission isn't filled with corruption.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by RossCA
                    Just look what happened in baseball. This is a serious issue in this modern era of sports. If current testing can be fooled, they need to ask for stricter testing. Otherwise sensational boxers in todays era will always be suspected for future generations to come. Boxing history is very important to this sport, we are living history now, so its up to us to do the right thing and demand testing be done in the most full proof way possible.
                    But that was also one of my points. Baseball didn't care, cause homeruns were putting asses in seats...Then the Balco list, Bonds, Clemens, and others, and Baseball had no choice but to change. The eyes were on them.

                    You see how homeruns have went down, and so has the number that test positive.

                    I agree, stronger testing is needed. I never said otherwise.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by rubensonnny
                      Everyone above the age of 14 with reasonable knowledge of sport should know by now that most athletes(let alone boxers) are juicing. The most disturbing thing was how the media played dumb to the whole issue during the whole OST situation, guys like Doug Fischer claim to believe that Pacquiao is not on something, to not even have some form of su****ion is absolutely ridiculous. He and all the other "writers" know better and its because they dont want to expose the current state of boxing for what it is, you've really got to be a ****** to think the commission isn't filled with corruption.
                      Yeah, that is what upset me. I never expected that reaction and it's still kind of shocking. But it just goes to show you what people will do to protect their paychecks.

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