Getting inside of Vitaly

[tri4ben2]

Watching the Joe Frazier fights of the 60s and 70s one would think that.

I am not sure how big Frazier was, but I would bet that he was about 5'11 or 6'. He also weighed about 210, but with the nutrition of today he could get up to 220-230 without much of a problem.

The question is, how many shots would he have to take to keep raking VK to the body.

The Foreman fights were a little indicative of what would happen. frazier would be caught coming in.

Now I am thinking that I might be biased because the only fights that I have seen Frazier in were against Ali and Foreman.

Has Frazier had anything to say on this subject lately?

[PBDS]

Well, you would be right, except that Vitali's jab sucks. It's slow, has litte snap, and he doesn't bring it back fast enough. I would say Carnera and Klitschko had equal jabs. Klitschko has a nice straight hand, but he leaves himself wide open after he throws it.

To get inside Klitschko, you would have to double up on the jab, then throw a few hooks to the body, constantly moving your upper body, using foot movement (things Danny Williams just did not do), for the first 4-5 rounds. Then head to inside on the tired guy and just throw the shorter shots on the inside that Klitschko wouldn't be able to counter b/c he's so tall and his arms are so long . . . it would take stamina and a good chin to be successful b/c Klitschko will hit you with some right hands as you come in, but with a guy who's fast he wouldn't land too often . . .Klitschko has found success recently vs guys with very limited gameplans and no fight discipline (Williams just went in there trying to brawl and didn't take his time and try to box a little), plus his last 3 opponents have been grotesqly overweight. . . .
An inshape Toney would embarass Klitshko. Rahman has a small chance, and Byrd might pull a decision. After watching last Sat.'s fight, I was not impressed at all. Danny Williams made David Izon look like Ray Robinson . . .

In shape Toney embarras Vitali? lol lol lol That's the funniest ****ing thing I have ever heard on this forum. You are aware that Vitali fought Byrd and dominated him until an injury aren't you? And that was a better Byrd back then and Vitali is much improved. The last paragraph of this post is the biggest bunch of nonsene I have ever witnessed on this site by far. I will admit that it all gave me a good belly laugh. Thanks, I had a hard day and needed a good laugh!!

[Pno]

I agree, Rock and/or Byrd would school Vitali if he fights them in '05, here's my new top 10 list after last Saturday's showdown:

1. Chris Byrd (finally touchable, but still the illest out there)
2. James Toney (untouchable, brought power up to heavyweight)
3. John Ruiz (keeps winning)
4. Hasim Rahman (always 1 punch away from victory)
5. Vitali Klitschko (3 fights in a row vs. outta-shapers)
6. Lamon Brewster (big lazy counter-puncher)
7. Vladimir Klitschko (bigger, softer headhunter)
8. Danny Williams (loveable punching bag)
9. Andrew Golota (still a danger to anybody)
10. Jameel McCline (see #6)

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wow, I didn't know this was a comedy thread..
and I don't even have a joke to tell... sorry..

obviously haters
but we all pick and choose our favorites I suppose..

I think what people are neglecting to discuss is that we don't know how much power it takes to put down VK. It would have to be someone with more power than LL and more power than Sanders. Otherwise they're hoping to win on a decision, which could be possible.

[suetombo]

the old roy jones would have beaten VK via decision

[Neuraxis]

6-10 is just ridiculous.

As is 1-5.

[Neuraxis]

the old roy jones would have beaten VK via decision

Go sit in the corner.

[GasPed]

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wow, I didn't know this was a comedy thread..
and I don't even have a joke to tell... sorry..

obviously haters
but we all pick and choose our favorites I suppose..

I think what people are neglecting to discuss is that we don't know how much power it takes to put down VK. It would have to be someone with more power than LL and more power than Sanders. Otherwise they're hoping to win on a decision, which could be possible.

Right on! Look, there's no dis*****g that Toney and Byrd have far superior skills to VK, but it's NOT ENOUGH! The man is huge!!

They guy took some very heavy shots from two of the heaviest hitters of perhaps all time (LL and Sanders), and never went down - there's no way Toney or Byrd could hurt him, even if they did manage to get "inside of him".

[dempseyfire]

Big difference is . .Foreman was a much bigger puncher then Klitschko, and had much quicker hands, and notably a MUCH better uppercut. Frazier would be way too fast for Vitali, and his work-rate would get Vitali exhausted by the 3rd round . . .
Bonavena hit harder then Klitschko and Frazier steamrolled him . . .Mathis was also a huge HW with a good punch and Frazier steamrolled him. Size is not the issue. Klitschko has actually been outweighed in 3 of his last 4 fights. Its conditioning and proper boxing technique. Danny Williams would've given himself a greater chance if he'd weighed in a good 40-50 lbs less then he did, but even with that the man displayed a horrible defense and an awful fight plan . . .

Corrie Sanders is now one of the hardest hitting HWs of all time!??! LOL. How did he achieve this? By knocking out Wlad Klitschko? . . .Hasim Rahman took his best shots more then a few times in their fight and kept coming, but was put on ***** street by Masgaev, Tua and Lewis and hurt by Ruiz.

[scramwarrior]

impossible hes tooo big

[scramwarrior]

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