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  • #21
    manny at 5?

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    • #22
      Originally posted by shogun1123 View Post
      Martinez is on the list, just not in the top 5.

      PBF reigns supreme until he is beaten period.
      That's not how it works.

      P4P is not about being undefeated nor do you lose it in the ring.

      Talk about being a novice.

      Again in the last Martinez has very damn good case to have a better resume than Floyd.

      What is the definition of P4P?

      Now the whole P4P is a mythical based opinion. Now your opinion, no fact, but opinion you know the difference right? Is that Floyd is #1 best P4P... Again there is no facts of proving it is just an opinion. And, who is to say that you're wrong with that opinion? The only people who would disagree with your opinion is the one with a different opinion. But, who's to say that they're are wrong with their opinion?

      The P4P list is just to have fun in debating it. Because, you can ask 10 different people to give you their top 10 P4P list and every single one of them it will be different. There is really no right or wrong. If the TS thinks Martinez is the best P4P...Then so be it that is his opinion, you and I might disagree with him but he and I would disagree with your choice and you and him would disagree of my choice.

      Because, P4P is just a mythical based opinion rankings that mean nothing at all.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
        That's not how it works.

        P4P is not about being undefeated nor do you lose it in the ring.

        Talk about being a novice.

        Again in the last Martinez has very damn good case to have a better resume than Floyd.

        What is the definition of P4P?

        Now the whole P4P is a mythical based opinion. Now your opinion, no fact, but opinion you know the difference right? Is that Floyd is #1 best P4P... Again there is no facts of proving it is just an opinion. And, who is to say that you're wrong with that opinion? The only people who would disagree with your opinion is the one with a different opinion. But, who's to say that they're are wrong with their opinion?

        The P4P list is just to have fun in debating it. Because, you can ask 10 different people to give you their top 10 P4P list and every single one of them it will be different. There is really no right or wrong. If the TS thinks Martinez is the best P4P...Then so be it that is his opinion, you and I might disagree with him but he and I would disagree with your choice and you and him would disagree of my choice.

        Because, P4P is just a mythical based opinion rankings that mean nothing at all.
        I agree with you P4P is just a mythical based opinion.

        But when you rank all the skills it takes to be a professional boxer/fighter
        PBF is just #1

        defense = Floyd
        offensive skill set = Floyd and Marquez
        speed = Floyd
        power = lot of people other than Floyd
        footwork = Floyd
        boxing record = Floyd
        Boxing IQ = Floyd


        All of that makes PBF #1 P4P

        Martinez is good, I am a fan but he needs to fight on the main stage against "A level" boxers to get to #1. C+ fighters like Pavlik and PW does not do it for ME.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by shogun1123 View Post
          I agree with you P4P is just a mythical based opinion.

          But when you rank all the skills it takes to be a professional boxer/fighter
          PBF is just #1

          defense = Floyd
          offensive skill set = Floyd and Marquez
          speed = Floyd
          power = lot of people other than Floyd
          footwork = Floyd
          boxing record = Floyd
          Boxing IQ = Floyd



          All of that makes PBF #1 P4P

          Martinez is good, I am a fan but he needs to fight on the main stage against "A level" boxers to get to #1. C+ fighters like Pavlik and PW does not do it for ME.
          Again, all those are just opinion not facts, except for the boxing record...But, then again where is JCC jr?

          Again you're going by opinion and not facts. And, LOL @ P-Will being a C+ fighter.

          Anyways, is your opinion that Floyd is #1 cool, I don't agree but cool. Is the TS opinion that Martinez is #1 I don't agree but cool. Is my opinion that Pac, Floyd, Wladimir, Martinez, whoever can be #1 how can anybody say is wrong when is just my opinion and my opinion is as good as yours, the TS, anybody else for that matter?

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          • #25
            just delete ur account ts

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            • #26
              floyd fought once.....pac fought twice.

              pac did not lose one round........your opinion is biased. he has the ultimate offense not mayweather defense but his greatest defense is his greatest offense if you can understand that. doubt it.

              sergio martinez is obvioiusly top 3 but your opinion is your opinion. monitel better than pac? ha. feb. 19 you'll see the flash the future filipino star beat that ass and your **** will be annihilated

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              • #27
                mine is

                1-jmm
                2manny
                3-floyd
                4-montiel
                5-martinez

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                • #28
                  1. Manny
                  2. Martinez
                  3. floyd
                  4. Wonjongkam
                  5. Ward
                  6. Hopkins
                  7. Marquez
                  8. Froch
                  9. Montiel
                  10. Khan

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by nj_evoixgsr View Post
                    floyd fought once.....pac fought twice.

                    pac did not lose one round........your opinion is biased. he has the ultimate offense not mayweather defense but his greatest defense is his greatest offense if you can understand that. doubt it.

                    sergio martinez is obvioiusly top 3 but your opinion is your opinion. monitel better than pac? ha. feb. 19 you'll see the flash the future filipino star beat that ass and your **** will be annihilated
                    Floyd Mayweather fought and beat the guy who brutalized Maragarito. Pacquiao did fight twice. But his second fight is against a guy who got brutalized by the guy who lost nearly ever round to Mayweather. Also, right before the fight Margarito got brutalized in, he was revealed to be a cheater. So it is possible that Margarito is not an actual world class fighter.

                    Mayweather deserves to be ranked ahead of Pacquiao.

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                    • #30
                      1. Manny Pacquiao

                      2. Floyd Mayweather

                      3. Wladimir Klitschko

                      4. Segio Martinez

                      5. Bernard Hopkins

                      6. J.M. Marquez

                      7. Vitali Klitschko

                      8. Andre Ward

                      9. Jason Litzau

                      10. The Thai fighter with the long name.

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