Lessons for greatness- Has the 'Pacman' taken it to the next level??

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • ThunderWolf
    WildCard
    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
    • May 2009
    • 2598
    • 140
    • 83
    • 10,324

    #1

    Lessons for greatness- Has the 'Pacman' taken it to the next level??


    Donelson
    BASN Staff Reporter
    Dec 26, 2010


    IOWA CITY (BASN) -- Manny Pacquiao is one of those rare fighters who transcend the sport he participate in.

    He is a folk hero in his native Philippines, which got him elected to the Congress, but his greatest fame is what he has accomplished in the ring.

    Pacquiao began his career as a junior flyweight, fighting at 107 pounds but he made his fame when he moved into the featherweight division and began his challenge against the trio of great Mexicans, Erik Morales, Marco Antonio Barrera and Juan Manuel Marquez.



    On November 15, 2003, Pacquiao came out stopped Barrera in the 11th round. He knocked Marquez down three times but Marquez came back to produce a draw in their championship bout and he lost a unanimous decision to Erik Morales.

    In those bouts, Pacquiao showed power with his left hand but he proved vulnerable to right hand counters from Mexican fighters. At that stage in his career, he depended upon his speed and left hand to win fights but he was not a complete fighter.

    He hired Freddie Roach as his trainer and Roach changed Pacquiao's style and turned him into a complete fighter by adding a right hand jab to the southpaw's arsenal.

    Plus, he learned to use the whole ring by moving and countering bigger fighters.

    The ability of Pacquiao to change styles proved to be his biggest accomplishment since it allowed to neutralized bigger fighters with his speed and power, which he maintained as he moved up in rank.

    He defeated Morales twice by TKO, plus decision victories over Barrea and Marquez but he then decided to make history by moving up to lightweight division and knocking out champion David Diaz plus a surprise victory over Oscar De La Hoya, fighting a welterweight.

    While many viewed the De La Hoya victory as a victory over an aged fighter (despite that many pundits favored De La Hoya going into the fight), Pacquiao stopped the top junior welterweight Ricky Hatton in two rounds.

    After demolishing Miguel Cotto, Joshua Clottey and Antonio Margarito over the past year, "Pacman" has established himself as best boxer over the past decade. For many boxing pundits and fans, the judgment on whether he is the best over the past decade is dependent on if he beats Mayweather.

    There may be another way to consider the question on who is the best pound for pound and look at who Pacquiao has beaten. Almost every division he's fought in, he beat the best.

    Look at his record over the past decade and you see that he defeated some of the best fighters of his generation. He beat Marquez once and drew with him as well, defeated both Morales and Barrera twice, Ricky Hatton in two rounds, Miguel Cotto, a solid champion, lightweight champ David Diaz, former champions Oscar De La Hoya, Antonio Margarito and Joshua Clottey among others.

    Each victory enhanced his reputation and his popularity, already strong in Asia became a world wide phenomena as he took his tour to the states when he beat some of the best Mexican fighters.

    Today, Pacquiao's success as a PPV star rests on two factors. The first factor is that he did not just fight the best fighters but defeated the best of his generation from flyweight to welterweight and the second factor is that he is an action fighter which means great fights with great fighters.

    Pacquiao provides a lesson for fighters who want to be great. The first lesson is never rest on your laurel and keeps improving on your game. He changed his style as he moved up in weight by adding a solid jab and learn to use the whole ring.

    The second lesson is if you want to be great, then you have to beat other great fighters. Muhammad Ali's greatness came because he fought the best of his era and beat them.

    Pacquiao has done the same thing and this helped built his popularity as well. The final lesson is to provide action fights. He throws punches, and is not afraid to take risk.

    Combine all three lessons and you have a great fighter for the all ages.
  • Instinto
    Interim Champion
    Gold Champion - 500-1,000 posts
    • Oct 2010
    • 882
    • 47
    • 9
    • 7,578

    #2
    It's good to have boxers like Pacquiao in the history of boxing, because next generation of boxers will receive more critics due to Pacquiao's accomplishments. Bernard Hopkins was champion at middleweight for 10 years, he collected all titles, but really in those 10 years he had only two good opposition as De La Hoya and Trinidad,who come up from lower weights. I mean I would rather have Hopkins going up in weight divisions and challeging Roy Jones, James Toney. After Hopkins was defeated and started to go around divisions he did really have good fights against good opponents: Tarver, Wright, Calzaghe, Pavlik, Pascal, all those fights were settled when Hopkins moved up and people really were tired of his middleweight run. People blame Calzaghe for fighting Hopkins, when Bernard was old, but also there is Hopkins who didn't want to vacate his titles and go up to challenge Calzaghe.

    Comment

    • Souroush1
      Contender
      • Apr 2010
      • 134
      • 16
      • 1
      • 6,232

      #3
      catchweight king is a good title

      Comment

      • Radke
        Banned
        Silver Champion - 100-500 posts
        • May 2010
        • 490
        • 295
        • 73
        • 7,620

        #4
        Originally posted by Souroush1
        catchweight king is a good title
        2 catchweight fights making you king? smh.

        Comment

        • Weebler I
          El Weeblerito I
          Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
          • Dec 2007
          • 31113
          • 1,468
          • 1,648
          • 54,550

          #5
          Originally posted by ThunderWolf
          For many boxing pundits and fans, the judgment on whether he is the best over the past decade is dependent on if he beats Mayweather.
          aka patriotic US pundits and *****s. Pacquiao has already won 'fighter of the decade'.

          Comment

          • tibbar
            Undisputed Champion
            Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
            • Dec 2006
            • 2725
            • 83
            • 83
            • 9,166

            #6
            Originally posted by ThunderWolf

            Donelson
            BASN Staff Reporter
            Dec 26, 2010


            IOWA CITY (BASN) -- Manny Pacquiao is one of those rare fighters who transcend the sport he participate in.

            He is a folk hero in his native Philippines, which got him elected to the Congress, but his greatest fame is what he has accomplished in the ring.

            Pacquiao began his career as a junior flyweight, fighting at 107 pounds but he made his fame when he moved into the featherweight division and began his challenge against the trio of great Mexicans, Erik Morales, Marco Antonio Barrera and Juan Manuel Marquez.



            On November 15, 2003, Pacquiao came out stopped Barrera in the 11th round. He knocked Marquez down three times but Marquez came back to produce a draw in their championship bout and he lost a unanimous decision to Erik Morales.

            In those bouts, Pacquiao showed power with his left hand but he proved vulnerable to right hand counters from Mexican fighters. At that stage in his career, he depended upon his speed and left hand to win fights but he was not a complete fighter.

            He hired Freddie Roach as his trainer and Roach changed Pacquiao's style and turned him into a complete fighter by adding a right hand jab to the southpaw's arsenal.

            .
            thats wrong. freddie was already working on his corner during those fights not after. in fact even earlier, on the ledwaba fight.

            Comment

            • Bushbaby
              Wild Apache
              Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
              • Dec 2008
              • 23513
              • 727
              • 370
              • 32,078

              #7
              Under 135,Pacman beat the best fighters available!!But at 135,Diaz wasn't the best!!At 140 Hatton was the best!!I still can't get a solid answer as to why he had to fight Cotto at 145!!Clottey was solid win,but he was supposed to win that,to much activity against Clottey's high guard!!Margarito was pure & absolute garbage & Mosley atm isn't supposed to be a serious threat!!Pacman's Clottey Margarito & now Mosley are the easiest roads he could have taken,I was a big Pacman fan,but Margarito & now Mosley is cherrypicking to the fullest!!

              Comment

              • Teddy_Atlas
                Banned
                • Dec 2010
                • 57
                • 23
                • 5
                • 115

                #8
                i lied on espn about the email about pacquiao and PEDs

                i wanted to be a great fighter but i was no good so i quit and became a trainer

                now i see a great fighter like pacquiao and i feel jealous so i made it up about the email and PEDs

                Comment

                • Khalid X
                  The Truth *********
                  Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                  • May 2008
                  • 11976
                  • 691
                  • 531
                  • 20,762

                  #9
                  Great read.

                  Pacquiao, along with Langford and Armstrong are the definition of
                  P4P.

                  Comment

                  • Khalid X
                    The Truth *********
                    Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                    • May 2008
                    • 11976
                    • 691
                    • 531
                    • 20,762

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Teddy_Atlas
                    i lied on espn about the email about pacquiao and PEDs

                    i wanted to be a great fighter but i was no good so i quit and became a trainer

                    now i see a great fighter like pacquiao and i feel jealous so i made it up about the email and PEDs
                    Yeah you also spread lies about Tyson and Cus because you were salty about getting fired. What did you expect to happen when you pulled a gun out on a 15 year old kid you fvkkin pu$$y.

                    Comment

                    Working...
                    TOP