HBO Screws Arum and Cotto, Arum Threatens To Screw Them Back

[check hook]

You have to respect HBO for this.....they must know Cotto vs Vanes would bring in far more ratings than anyone thwey can match with Sergio atm.....

[Rick Grimes]

Pay money for *****e and you'll keep getting *****e. HBO are doing the right thing.

[jrosales13]

HBO is probably sick and tired of "In House Fights" and him only matching up his own fighters...*** Bob Arum and Top Rank!

Really? Then why are they going to show Donaire-Montiel? Or Guerrero-Katsidis?

All in house fights so they're not sick of it.

Martinez is currently #3 P4P and was the 2010 Fighter Of The Years...So HBO Made The Right Choice!

How can you say they made the right choice when Martinez opponent is TBA?

It all depends on who Martinez opponent is to know if they made the right choice or not.

Hopefully HBO does this more and stop all the BS that is going on in boxing and try to force these Promoters hands a lot more in 2011 and make them give the fans the match ups they WANT! So Vanes is a bigger draw then someone like Berto??? I DON'T THINK SO! Vanes hasn't done ****! He just so happen to be with Top Rank just like Cotto

You right Cotto-Vanes 1.5mil is ridiculous. But, 1mil for Berto-Hernandez now that is what I'm talking about.

[jrosales13]

Where to even start with this one...

beginning, middle, or at the end...Wherever you feel like it go ahead.

[jrosales13]

You have to respect HBO for this.....they must know Cotto vs Vanes would bring in far more ratings than anyone thwey can match with Sergio atm.....

No you don't have to respect them. You would respect them if HBO were smart enough to go with a double header. And, then you would have to respect them.

[jrosales13]

Pay money for *****e and you'll keep getting *****e. HBO are doing the right thing.

And, if you don't pay for quality, you will never get quality. HBO is not doing the right thing.

The right thing would host a double header.

The right thing would see who Martinez opponent is going to be before making such a decision.

[Rick Grimes]

And, if you don't pay for quality, you will never get quality. HBO is not doing the right thing.

The right thing would host a double header.

The right thing would see who Martinez opponent is going to be before making such a decision.

HBO would pay for quality if Arum was offering quality, he isn't.

[check hook]

No you don't have to respect them. You would respect them if HBO were smart enough to go with a double header. And, then you would have to respect them.

Look at it from their perspective.......they don't need boxing. HBO is a subsidiary of Time Warner i believe.....they could wind up the whole boxing division and it wouldn't hurt them at all. It's a miniscule part of their earnings.

They are the ones who syndicate fights....here they have offered Bob two ooptions they prefer.....Bob shoots them both down and still expects them to come in with open arms for the one he wants. There is a reason the price tag is cheap at $1.5 million.......had he asked for more it would be another slap in the face.

[jrosales13]

HBO would pay for quality if Arum was offering quality, he isn't.

Fine OK, and paying for Martinez-TBA is quality? Gotcha

[jrosales13]

Look at it from their perspective.......they don't need boxing. HBO is a subsidiary of Time Warner i believe.....they could wind up the whole boxing division and it wouldn't hurt them at all. It's a miniscule part of their earnings.

They are the ones who syndicate fights....here they have offered Bob two ooptions they prefer.....Bob shoots them both down and still expects them to come in with open arms for the one he wants. There is a reason the price tag is cheap at $1.5 million.......had he asked for more it would be another slap in the face.

This is their perspective, The return on the investment isn't very high. They're not getting the ratings they want. And, if it keeps going like this boxing on HBO would no longer exist. Then what?

Bob Arum is going to be OK, TR is going to be OK, Cotto is going to be OK, They will not be phased by this at all. They have independent PPV's, they have a deal with Fox Sports Net, they have resources. Because, like it or not they do their job when other promoter fails to. However, what is Goosen going to do? What is Dibella going to do? What are their fighters going to do?

This is not about sticking it to Arum, this is about HBO has to get their **** together and get ratings. I understand trying to push Martinez. But, that is why you put on a double header. You showcase Martinez to the numbers that Cotto brings. But, they're too ****** to do that. Ross Greenburg is a crappy bossman.