Comments Thread For: Arum: Berto-Marquez Should Happen For Pacquiao Shot

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Manny Pacquiao is a coward.....

It is a great idea bro, ur hate just won't get out of ur brains way long enough for you to realize it. Pac mosley is signed, all the crying in the world won't change that. Why not let the other two guys chasing pac meet up and figure out who the lead dog should be come november? What part of that DOESN'T make sense you u?

I've never defended this mosley fight, I'm taking it as a stay busy fight just the way it is. It's a money grab and a low risk fight, pac's just waiting to see if floyd ever gets his **** together. I didn't give any credit to lil floyd when he fought the old man. I'm not gonna give pac any credit for it either.

That said if it's between mosley and jmm, give me mosley all day. People who think jmm is anything worth damn over 135 are fooling themselves. He wouldn't make it 3 rounds with pac no matter how much piss he drinks. If he can beat berto that would make him viable. If he can't even beat berto he doesn't need to be mentioned as a real opponent at 147, he's just out classed. It's not 2008 bro, wake up

You're just a whiney Pac-Whore.

Clearly, Marquez is not interested in 147.

This is about JMM/Pac III.

You whiney ***go7s are a total joke for insisting that JMM is not effective above 135, and yet also insisting that he should go to 147 to face the mighty Pac

Manny is a natural JWW and can easily make 140 according to Ariza/Roach.

That b1tch is just too scared to face Marquez without every advantage.

1.) Manny Pacquiao is a coward for claiming to be an 8-division champion, and yet being too scared to EVER fight an actual JMW opponent.

2.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Mayweather back in December, either that or he is a steroid cheat. He didn't want none of Mayweather or the tests, thats for sure.

3.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Sergio Martinez. If JMM can go up two divisions to WW, then surely Manny can defend his JMW title at 154. What a b1tch Manny.

4.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for demanding a catch-weight for Cotto. There are two reasons to demand a catch-weight, either you are not good enough to compete with that fighter at his natural weight, which is fine..... or you are attempting to drain him to gain an unfair advantage, which is cowardly. Team Pacquiao tried to drain Cotto, because Manny had already fought at 147.

5.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Shane Mosley - TWICE !!

6.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for being such a cherry-picker.....
* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage
* And at JMW, Manny will not fight anybody at all

7.) And Manny "padded" Pacquiao is also a dirty coward for refusing to fight Marquez unless the fight is held at 147.

Manny "padded" Pacquiao is a joke. Top Rank smoke and mirrors.

Team Pacquiao.....
Still piss-scared of Marquez, since 2004

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Excuse me, was I talking to you? Me and hitking are having a discussion....

Yes, you fkn were talking to me, you replied to my post on page 10, post# 91.

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I didn't excuse Manny for doing it against Cotto or Margarito! I hate catchweights, I am just saying that more fighters do it other than Pacquaio. People are singling out certain fighters for certain things and it's not right. You got to take it into account that alot of fighters have done it or have missed their weights altogether, as hitking stated....

And please, stop the name calling! We are all adults here (at least I know I am) and no need to slam someone when they have a different opinion than you do. Me and hitking don't agree but we are not calling each other $5 whores, which is more funny than anything...

But, I have you pegged for a typical whiney, dishonest, Manny-fan.

And you have done nothing to sway my assessment.

You are simply a dishonest Manny-fan if you think that Marquez should have to fight Manny at 147, which is higher than when Manny won his welterweight title. And you are an arse-wipe for suggesting that JMM should have to fight Berto.

What sort of boxing fan would say that ?

Earlier, you prattled on about PPV revenue..... well genius, how does Berto fit into that scenario? You dishonest pricks just attempt to justify Manny's cherry-picking every which way you can.

Until I regard you as a reasonable human being, I will call you whatever I like.

[ivan49]

what a great idea Berto/ JMM semifinals vs Pac Mosley winner! If GBP really wants to build marquez up as a potential WW contender against pac, he shouls at least beat one tough WW.

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berto has been fighting small guys his whole career show marquez some respect how about berto fight a real welterweight such as cintron to prove he belongs

[JoeDaWg]

I had Pac winning the first one and JMM winning the rematch. But I think you're missing the point. There's nobody out there other than Mayweather and Martinez who would be favored against Pac. And since de la Hoya, he's been a heavy favorite in all his fights. So according to your logic, everything he's done post-de la Hoya has been meaningless. That's not how boxing works. Pac needs to fight the best, no matter how big a favorite he is over them. And if he beats them, its a sign of his greatness, not a sign of inferior competition.

What? I'm not saying he shouldn't fight jmm because he would be favored. I'm saying most people (and I'm one of them) don't think the fight would last more then 2 or 3 rounds. If he's able to beat a guy like berto he would shoot to the front of the line. I just don't see the problem with jmm vs berto and the winner hit's the pac man lotto. It makes sense to me.

[JoeDaWg]

You're just a whiney Pac-Whore.

Clearly, Marquez is not interested in 147.

This is about JMM/Pac III.

You whiney ***go7s are a total joke for insisting that JMM is not effective above 135, and yet also insisting that he should go to 147 to face the mighty Pac

Manny is a natural JWW and can easily make 140 according to Ariza/Roach.

That b1tch is just too scared to face Marquez without every advantage.

1.) Manny Pacquiao is a coward for claiming to be an 8-division champion, and yet being too scared to EVER fight an actual JMW opponent.

2.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Mayweather back in December, either that or he is a steroid cheat. He didn't want none of Mayweather or the tests, thats for sure.

3.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Sergio Martinez. If JMM can go up two divisions to WW, then surely Manny can defend his JMW title at 154. What a b1tch Manny.

4.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for demanding a catch-weight for Cotto. There are two reasons to demand a catch-weight, either you are not good enough to compete with that fighter at his natural weight, which is fine..... or you are attempting to drain him to gain an unfair advantage, which is cowardly. Team Pacquiao tried to drain Cotto, because Manny had already fought at 147.

5.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Shane Mosley - TWICE !!

6.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for being such a cherry-picker.....
* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage
* And at JMW, Manny will not fight anybody at all

7.) And Manny "padded" Pacquiao is also a dirty coward for refusing to fight Marquez unless the fight is held at 147.

Manny "padded" Pacquiao is a joke. Top Rank smoke and mirrors.

Team Pacquiao.....
Still piss-scared of Marquez, since 2004

Dude calm down, ur acting like pac ****d ur sister or something. First off talking about pac ducking middle weights makes u look ******. Dont look ******.

Second cotto had to drop one pound from his previous fight, and he was pac's largest opponent at that time. I don't like the catch weight but it's not as big of a deal as ur making it out to be.

Third nobody is ducking mayweather. He made some demands that had never been made before and pac kinda told him wherer to put them. Being the recognized p4p king he didn't think he needed to do anything above and beyond at that point. Now pac has agreed floyds demands and floyd reponded by on vacation and starting a crime spree. Then entire world know's who's ducking who, get pissed at ur boy floyd...not pac.

Forth no one who steps in a boxing ring with another man is a "coward" so check yourself.

Pac has cleaned out 147 in 2 years while pretty boy ****ed around for 5 years at that weight and didn't do ****. Pac is fighting mosley so how is he ducking him? Dude this is too easy, I'm getting bored. Hit me back when u've got something worth while to say instead of the ur usuall amature ****.

[JoeDaWg]

Oh and marquez is chasing pac, not the other way around. If he wants him he has to come get him. Pac's a 147 pound fighter, it's not 2008 no more bro.

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What? I'm not saying he shouldn't fight jmm because he would be favored. I'm saying most people (and I'm one of them) don't think the fight would last more then 2 or 3 rounds. If he's able to beat a guy like berto he would shoot to the front of the line. I just don't see the problem with jmm vs berto and the winner hit's the pac man lotto. It makes sense to me.

That is because you are a whiney ***wit that knows nothing about boxing.

You are just another typically dishonest flag-waving Manny-fan.

Marquez is a LW, any talk of him fighting at WW could only have emanated from a whiney ****head Manny-fan..... like yourself.

Marquez has no interest in 147, just like you have no real interest in boxing.

You are both only interested in Manny, and yet only one of you has any balls..... guess which one that is?

Manny is a natural JWW and can easily make 140 according to Ariza/Roach, and JMM deserves a fair rematch because of the history between the two.

WHAT THE *** ARE YOU SCARED OF, YOU WHINEY **** !!

A fair contest ?

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Second cotto had to drop one pound from his previous fight, and he was pac's largest opponent at that time. I don't like the catch weight but it's not as big of a deal as ur making it out to be.

Rubbish.

There are only two reasons to demand a catch-weight.....

either, you are not good enough to compete with that fighter at his natural weight, which is fine.....

or, you are attempting to drain that fighter in order to gain an unfair advantage, which is cowardly.

Team Pacquiao tried to drain Cotto, because Manny had already fought at 147.

I am not saying that Cotto was drained, I am saying that they ATTEMPTED to drain him. Manny could probably have beaten Cotto at 147, which makes the catch-weight demand a real b1tch-move.

Just because the bullet missed, does not lessen the intent.

That was cowardly.

It's just that you have lower standards than a $5 whore.

Third nobody is ducking mayweather. He made some demands that had never been made before and pac kinda told him wherer to put them. Being the recognized p4p king he didn't think he needed to do anything above and beyond at that point. Now pac has agreed floyds demands and floyd reponded by on vacation and starting a crime spree. Then entire world know's who's ducking who, get pissed at ur boy floyd...not pac.

Rubbish.

Vacationer agreed to EVERYTHING, including 50/50, the reason why the fight did not get made back in Dec 2009, is because Manny would not agree to random blood tests without a 24-day cutoff.....
http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=27427

Either Manny was scared of Mayweather, or he was scared of the tests, but he sure as hell was scared of something to walk away from a $50mil fight.

And BTW kid, many fighters have undertaken OST's, they are mandatory in ALL top amateur sports, as well as boxing.

You are a gullible little kid, for accepting any of the 6 ridiculous excuses provided by Team Pacquiao

Pac has cleaned out 147 in 2 years while pretty boy ****ed around for 5 years at that weight and didn't do ****. Pac is fighting mosley so how is he ducking him? Dude this is too easy, I'm getting bored. Hit me back when u've got something worth while to say instead of the ur usuall amature ****.

Rubbish !!

The only welterweight that Manny has EVER fought at 147, was.....

..... Josh " the punching bag " Clottey

And pull your head out of Manny's arse kid, Team Pacquiao flatly refused Mosley TWICE!! The only reason they will go anywhere near him now is because he looks shot after Mayweather/Mora.

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