Comments Thread For: Arum: Berto-Marquez Should Happen For Pacquiao Shot

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WBA/WBO lightweight champion Juan Manuel Marquez was left as the odd man out when Manny Pacquiao finalized a deal to face "Sugar" Shane Mosley on May 7 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. Besides the difference in weight, and the large purse demand, Top Rank's CEO Bob Arum is not convinced that Marquez is capable of hanging with Pacquiao at 147-pounds. Their previous two meetings took place at featherweight and super featherweight.

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Bob Arum is nothing but a lying ****.

If Arum doesn't think that Marquez can " fight at the higher weights ".....
..... then why did Arum demand that the fight be at 147 ?

Bob Arum's earlier comment that he did not want Manny to "starve himself" to make 143, was an absolute lie, and a total b1tch-move by Team Pacquiao.

Immediately prior to the Margarito fight, Freddie Roach and Alex Ariza both stated that Manny was a natural junior welterweight. Ariza said that they simply could not keep any weight on Manny, and that he had to eat 6 meals a day just to remain at welterweight.

Here is proof that Manny Pacquiao can eat "anything on the table" while training for a fight where he weighed in at 144.....
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleid=621958
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/sport/g...ment-at-first/
http://www.pacquiao-margarito.com/en...-inner-circle/

Here is the Team Pacquiao lie.....
http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=33333

What is going on here ?

Are they actually shielding Pacquiao from Marquez ?

Surely not ?

[Walterson]

Berto sends offer to fight Cotto.

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=34098

DiBella: Berto Ready To Face Miguel Cotto on March 12

By Rick Reeno

Promoter Lou DiBella advised BoxingScene.com that WBC welterweight champion Andre Berto is ready to move up in weight to challenge Miguel Cotto for the WBA's 154-pound title on March 12 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. Berto was under consideration to face Manny Pacquiao on May 7. The expected opponent, Shane Mosley, finalized a deal on Tuesday to face Pacquiao on the May date.

Cotto's promoter, Top Rank, is considering three opponents for his March return, which includes Vanes Martirosyan, Pawel Wolak and Ricardo Mayorga.

"Obviously when Mosley and Pacquiao finalized their deal, we lost two possible options at welterweight. Once you get past Mosley and Pacquiao, there are very few options at 147 and very few of these guys at 140 are willing to move up. I would make the fight with Cotto in a second. I would not overprice Berto for that fight. Meeting Cotto at 154 is not a dealbreaker. Cotto's promoter [Top Rank CEO] Bob Arum knows my number. We can easily get that deal done, but I don't think Arum wants to make that fight," DiBella said to BoxingScene.com.

NOW Bob Arum says Berto should fight Marquez.

If that ain't blatantly protecting your fighters than I don't know what is.

[RIZO24]

Berto vs Cotto would be cool, But I dont think Cotto wants that fight, He wants to take it easy because he knows his death sentence is coming in june vs Margarito!!!

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great idea, have marquez vs berto at ppv around march time, have the winnger fight pac in July

Sounds like a great idea to me, if we gotta sit through pac mosley at least we'll have something to look forward to.

Co-sign. Marquez can't be anyone beat anyone in the top 5 at JWW yet he is suppose to beat Manny at 140?

LMAO

Everyone thinks that Bob Arum is a cvnt, except for these three ***wits.

You Manny-fluffer's are a joke.

The same three ****heads.

[gonhlywd]

A Message To Top Rank

2010 - Manny Pacquiao v Antonio Margarito

2010 - Kelly Pavlik v Julio Chavez Jr. (Fight was cancelled due to Pavlik's unfortunate addiction to alcohol, for which he is currently in treatment)

2010 - Miguel Cotto v Yuri Foreman

2009 - Miguel Cotto v Manny Pacquiao

2009 - Miguel Cotto v Joshua Clottey

2008 - Miguel Cotto v Antonio Margarito

2008 - Manny Pacquiao v Joshua Clottey

2008 - Miguel Cotto v Alfonso Gomez

2008 - Manny Pacquiao v David Diaz

1999 - Arum previously denies, but later admits (under oath) during a Federal racketeering trial that he bribed the International Boxing Federation President by paying him $100,000 in order to get the IBF to sanction a George Foreman fight.

1995 - Arum is penalized $125,000 by the Nevada State Athletic Commission for a bribe to get one of his fighters a higher ranking

** It must be noted that the other promoters identified in the Federal sting were New Jersey based promoter Dino Duva, who admitted paying a $25,000 bribe, promoter Cedric Kushner admitted paying $100,000 in bribes and Promoter Don King who was on video tape "regularly" paying for rankings for his fighters.

As the former Harvard Law Student and Federal prosecutor would do in trying to make a case, I am trying to establish a pattern. The pattern is that Bob Arum has been and continues to keep his fighters fighting "in-house," as other promoters call him, "In-House Bob." Quite fitting I believe. The other is to establish the corrupt nature of the promoter, specifically for this article, Bob Arum.
Bob Arum takes 26% of Manny's and other fighters' purse and as long as Manny and other Top Rank fighters continue to fight Top Rank fighters, Bob will continue to take in upwards up 52% of the total fight purse.
While this may sound like good business to some of you, the fact that there are very good candidates in other promotional companies that would give Manny Pacquiao and other Top Rank belt holders a very good fight, and would actually display some lateral movement, probably scares old Bob.
I for one believe that Andre Berto should be the fighter who is next in line for Manny. (I obviously would like to see the fight that the rest of the world would like to see, but let's put that debate aside for now). However, after watching Berto's last performance, I'm sure Bob does not want to take that chance. This is the same reason that Bob recently turned down $5 million for a Sergio Martinez v Miguel Cotto match. Bob knows that Miguel would lose his WBA belt and would rather match him up with another Top Rank fighter so as to pad his pockets more and keep a belt-holder in the stable, regardless of the outcome. It's a win-win for Bob, but nothing but a losing scenario for fight fans. And now with Shane Mosley all but signed to Top Rank, maybe just for a Pacquiao fight, Manny will surely fight another Top Rank fighter.
The below is a recent quote from Bob regarding the backlash from fans and bloggers regarding a match-up between Manny Pacquiao and Shane Mosley...

"I don't care. I don't care what the so-called boxing fans and bloggers have to say. I really don't."

You don't care? You don't care about the people that spend their hard-earned money, especially in these historically bad economic times? Who do you think pays to watch your fights?

The below quote is Bob's take on HBO and Showtime putting together fights on their own. (only because Arum proposed fights that neither company wanted to put up money for, I'm guessing they were all Top Rank fighters if I follow history)

"Instead of working with promoters, like they have done in the past, they have become promoters themselves. They make the fights just like promoters and pay fighters", Arum said. "It's their money and they can do what they want, but Don King doesn't have to go along with it and neither do I. King and I can get along without HBO or Showtime."

To which I say good luck you selfish prick.

Last but not least is my favorite Bob Arum quote...

"I was lying yesterday. Today I am telling the truth."

Bob Arum, YOU are what is ruining this sport. The prevention of the best fighters fighting the best opposition will continue to hinder the sport and prevent it from reaching it's potential as it has previously in decades past.
You are, and have been ruining the sport I love and kept me out of trouble as a youth. I truly believe that if it was not for the sport of boxing and my local PAL, I would not have graduated college with two degrees, much less graduated from High School. This is why I am so boisterous about this topic, because I see the problem with the sport that helped me and so many others through adolescence in **** neighborhoods, yet nothing seems to be done about it. So I am calling for a boycott of Top Rank Promotions. If we cannot have a single commission in charge, then we must weed out what is wrong with the sport and start with the promoters who refuse to "not care" what the people who pay them want.
The fighter is the only one in the ring taking the beating. There is no pension, no medical insurance and no one to give any legal advise. In fact, some promoters actually prohibit fighters from seeking outside, independent legal opinions. So again, if we cannot have a single commission, then we must weed out the corrupt promoter and start at the "Top."
Boycott Top Rank.


- David

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Their actions make it seem like they really want no parts of Marquez.

[hitking]

I love the logic and hypocrisy of a Pacwh*re. They say there's need for Pacquaio-Marquez III because Pac would handle him easily. Then outta the other side of their asses say Mayweather is b*tch, coawrd, p*ssy, blah, blah, blah. Yet, about 90% of other fighters and trainers asked believe Mayweather would whip Pac easily. So according to Pacwh*re logic, there's no need for Money to fight Pac because Pac doesn't stand a chance.

[Khalid X]

LMAO

Everyone thinks that Bob Arum is a cvnt, except for these three ***wits.

You Manny-fluffer's are a joke.

The same three ****heads.

So what fighter at 140, in the top 5, do you favor Marquez over?

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So what fighter at 140, in the top 5, do you favor Marquez over?

WTF does this mean? Pacquaio is an underdog against Mayweather. Yet, it doesn't keep every Pacwh*re on this planet from screaming Mayweather is ducking him.

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So what fighter at 140, in the top 5, do you favor Marquez over?

I dont really know but I would pay to see Khan, Bradley and Alexander all fight JMM AT JWW...