Reporter Says Freddie DID Insist On A Pre-Fight Drug Test

[Rick Grimes]

If that's true, so what ? Roach is having second thoughts about putting his guy in against a known cheater, is that wrong ?

What's that old sayin' again, "once a cheat, always a cheat"

They didn't have to fight this cheater and most of the boxing world didn't want him to. By asking for the additional testing he basically saying that the current testing procedure isn't good enough, they were arguing that there was nothing wrong with it when negotiating with Mayweather. Hypocrites.

[King of Sting]

Oh, and btw, NSAC did do an extra test for PAC and Coward Jr. it was one of WADA's reps that showed up at PAC's house, it wasn't a blood test, but, it was random.

[jrosales13]

You can't tell me anything about Barotillo, Seung-Kon Chae, or Hussein without making a quick trip to wikipedia and boxrec, *******. Thos 3 fighters are so unknown that wikipedia doesn't even have a bio on them.

I can tell you that Gregorio Vargas and Emanuel Augustus was much better fighter. And, the only think Hussein had was being awkward and hurt Pac.

Anyways...Tell me more about the great wins of Sosa and Ndou and how "washed up" a prime Barrera was?

[Rick Grimes]

Oh, and btw, NSAC did do an extra test for PAC and Coward Jr. it was one of WADA's reps that showed up at PAC's house, it wasn't a blood test, but, it was random.

It was random? Why did boxingscene know about it a week before it happened?

[King of Sting]

They didn't have to fight this cheater and most of the boxing world didn't want him to. By asking for the additional testing he basically saying that the current testing procedure isn't good enough, they were arguing that there was nothing wrong with it when negotiating with Mayweather. Hypocrites.

Is Freddie asking for OSTs and not just an extra set of urine tests from NSAC. Like I mentioned in my previous post, NSAC has done extra test. It was actually at the height of the PAC - Coward Jr drug fiasco

[Rick Grimes]

Uhh, how do you know Freddie is asking for OSTs and not just an extra set of urine tests from NSAC. Like I mentioned in my previous post, NSAC has done extra test. It was actually at the height of the PAC - Coward Jr drug fiasco

Where do i mention OST?

[King of Sting]

It was random? Why did boxingscene know about it a week before it happened?

If the OST that Coward and Mosley took, how come we knew there was gonna be OSTs involved in their fight.

Correct me if I'm wrong, Coward Jr and Mosley signed on to fight with OSTs involved, they knew it was gonna happen. Who the f**k is gonna do PEDs when they signed off on a contract agreeing to OSTs. And, just to let you know, Olympians get tested year-round !!

[King of Sting]

It was random? Why did boxingscene know about it a week before it happened?

Boxingscene also knew about OSTs happening before Mosley-Fraud way before the fight ? lol

[Mr.0pal]

correct me if I'm wrong, there's not a shred of evidence that links Freddie that he provided Toney with illegal substances.

Mosley's never been caught but he has admitted to cheating and lots of evidence that point to him being guilty. Where's the proof for PAC ?

NFL players get caught all the time, every year, how many of their coaches get punished for their players testing positive.

Roach said:

“I won’t say I didn’t know,” referring to Toney. “I never asked him, though. I never had a conversation. I could see his body structure had signs, his traps and stuff. He was either lifting a lot of weight or he was on (something).

“… I think I had one other fighter on steroids also, Justin Fortune. … I know he’d been there before.”

He suspected Toney but never said anything to him about it and he already knew Fortune had used them.... still he trained both of them. Just shows that Roach over looks warning signs. If Roach was so justified in asking for additional tests then he would not have gone public admitting that it would make him a hypocrite for doing so.

Had he rejected Floyd's request on the grounds that Manny had never been linked to PEDs then you'd have a valid argument, but because he rejected Floyd's request on the grounds that it was not commission regulation then he would be a hypocrite, and that's why he ADMITTED that it would be a hypocritical request on his part.

Also, if he's requesting additional testing then he obviously sees some degree of inadequecy in commission testing. Why then would he be justified to request additional testing on that basis but not Floyd?

If Roach's history of training fighters on steroids is enough to make Floyd want additional testing then it is no different than Roach wanting it based on Mosley's confession of using it.

[Rick Grimes]

Boxingscene also knew about OSTs happening before Mosley-Fraud way before the fight ? lol

No, they knew they could be tested.