Manny Pacquiao is doing some of the same things we criticise Floyd For

[FeFist]

These were all fights with low risk. He had no business fughting Judah coming off a loss to Baldomir, Hatton was a blown up welter, Oscar hadn't won a big fight since Vargas, and Mosley was past his prime. He did look good aginst Margarito, but Marg was Taylor made for him. Come straight forward, no defense, and was there for Shane to unload big shots.

Not syaing some of these guys are complete scrubs, but Floyd took these fights knowing there was no real risk. That's been the story of his career after his early years.

You're full of **** and I will tell you why. A previous post had you critising Floyd by suggesting he'd find an excuse to turn down Bradley or Allexander ( fighters who Pacquiao claimed he'd fight?).

You then go on to say how Mayweather only takes these fighters knowing there is no real risk. It leaves me scratching my head as you're inferring that Bradley or Allexander pose a greater risk than Mosley, Baldomir, Hatton or Judah at the time Mayweather fought him.

The biggest problem with dominating an opponent is people call them bums after the fact forgetting what they said before the fight.

[FeFist]

Tell em how it is..

Bunch of babies on these threads seriously.. Like any other fighter would do when he has reached the pinnacle of the sport, go for the best money fights out there... Anyone in there right mind would do so.. Thats why they also call the sport PRIZE FIGHTING.. $$$$..

Lots of damn Pacman haters on here when the man continues to put on good fights carrying the sport..

His fights haven't been that interesting to me. I thoroughly enjoyed his fight with Cotto ( the first 7 rounds anyway), Marquez, Morales, Barrera, Hatton ( for the short time it lasted), Oscar etc. but his fights with Clottey and Margarito were crap.

I don't need to explain why I disliked the Clottey fight, with the Margarito fight I will say that I watch boxing to see a display of boxing skill not an individual getting ruthlessly pummelled for 12 rounds.

[americanbot]

Did he win?

Yes or no?

Did Shane draw with Sergio?

Yes or no?


You guys can't just make up s hit without getting called out on it.

Larrys statement is completely false no matter how you try to sugar coat it.

Only one guy was coming off a loss.

marg was coming off a long lay off after being knocked out. he fought garcia just to see if he still had it & turns out he looked like crap.....

thats when pac fought him.

clottey lost.

mosley was just dominated & fought to a draw. mosley has looked very very bad lately & now pac will fight him.

heres the point, pac has been facing guys on a down slide lately...

let it sit in your head because you seem lost.....

[BoxingTech718]

People take **** to personally, they feel like Floyd really is a bad guy and Manny if really this perfect little saint. Yeah right both are human and have the same imperfections as the rest of us.

[infamous larryx]

Tell em how it is..

Bunch of babies on these threads seriously.. Like any other fighter would do when he has reached the pinnacle of the sport, go for the best money fights out there... Anyone in there right mind would do so.. Thats why they also call the sport PRIZE FIGHTING.. $$$$..

Lots of damn Pacman haters on here when the man continues to put on good fights carrying the sport..

so why do you **** on floyd for being honest about that???

[DondiNeverLeft]

Giving exccuse, contradicting himself, cherry picking and getting match so he doesnt get challenge.

Manny Pacquiao fighting Shane Mosley is a disgrace

I agree.
If we can critique Floyd over his crap then you can do it for the Filipino "god"

[Cash Cow]

Giving exccuse, contradicting himself, cherry picking and getting match so he doesnt get challenge.

Manny Pacquiao fighting Shane Mosley is a disgrace

"Roach to insist drug testing for the Mosley fight"
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx...bCategoryId=69

[Iceta Lives]

The bottom line is Floyd and Pacquiao are a part of the caravan of fighters who fight for themselves and don't give a damn about the fans and what they want. Bob Arum came out and said this on behalf of Pacquiao a while ago just like Floyd said he doesn't care about the fans (although Pacquiao didn't say it personally, but Arum saying it is almost just as bad). So you can't criticize one, and defend the other.

The type of fighters that are good for the sport are guys who go out of their way to make the best fights possible like the dudes in the super six that are in there now, the guys in the 118 tourney, Martinez, Williams, Bradley, Alexander, Glen Johnson. These are the kind of fighters that need to be talked about on these forums. And not some catch weight diamond belt king and a wife beating arm pit shaving prison prag.

[jai mari078]

You're full of **** and I will tell you why. A previous post had you critising Floyd by suggesting he'd find an excuse to turn down Bradley or Allexander ( fighters who Pacquiao claimed he'd fight?).

You then go on to say how Mayweather only takes these fighters knowing there is no real risk. It leaves me scratching my head as you're inferring that Bradley or Allexander pose a greater risk than Mosley, Baldomir, Hatton or Judah at the time Mayweather fought him.

The biggest problem with dominating an opponent is people call them bums after the fact forgetting what they said before the fight.

So your gonna tell me Judah coming off a loss to Baldomir and having a track record of never showing up in a big fight, and always mentally melting down risky? Judah has always had the talent but could never mentally put it together. Your really gonna try and justify Baldomir? A journeyman who had 9 previous losses when they fought. Your right that was pretty impressive. Mosley was no scrub but he was also not prime. He had been inactive for 1 1/2 years, and had been through 2 training camps at the time after the Berto fight fell through.

The point I am making about Berto,Alexander, or Bradley is how long has it been since he fought a young guy in his prime? Or just a guy in his prime for that matter?

I personally would rather see Pacquiao fight Berto first but if he fights Mosley to stay busy in the hopes of waiting on Floyd I'm ok with that. If and when that fight doesn't happen, than he can look to Berot or some of these other guys. The point is I and regardless if you wanna admit it or not know Floyd would never go anywhere near a fight like that. It's not hate, it's fact based on his track record, and that he has admittedly said he is more interested in money fights.

[FeFist]

So your gonna tell me Judah coming off a loss to Baldomir and having a track record of never showing up in a big fight, and always mentally melting down risky? Judah has always had the talent but could never mentally put it together. Your really gonna try and justify Baldomir? A journeyman who had 9 previous losses when they fought. Your right that was pretty impressive. Mosley was no scrub but he was also not prime. He had been inactive for 1 1/2 years, and had been through 2 training camps at the time after the Berto fight fell through.

I'm brought up Judah and Baldomir to show that they posed a greater threat to Mayweather than Bradley or Allexander, names you listed.

It's funny that you bash Mayweather for not fighting Baldomir when you had a lot of people giving Mayweather flack for not fighting him.

Your complaints with regards to him fighting Mosley aren't worth addressing.

The point I am making about Berto,Alexander, or Bradley is how long has it been since he fought a young guy in his prime? Or just a guy in his prime for that matter?

List the young prime fighters available to him now. You have to remember that many promoters and trainers wouldn't be willing to throw their young prospect to the lions so to speak.

Then there's the fact that young fighters for the most part nowadays are unproven and do not draw enough. There isn't a fighter under the age of 25 who deserves a match with Mayweather and more than likely people would criticise Mayweather for fighting them.

I personally would rather see Pacquiao fight Berto first but if he fights Mosley to stay busy in the hopes of waiting on Floyd I'm ok with that. If and when that fight doesn't happen, than he can look to Berot or some of these other guys. The point is I and regardless if you wanna admit it or not know Floyd would never go anywhere near a fight like that. It's not hate, it's fact based on his track record, and that he has admittedly said he is more interested in money fights.

You seriously think Mayweather would avoid Allexander or Bradley?

Put this on.