Comments Thread For: Roach: Pacquiao-Marquez III Will Happen, After Mosley

[bunnybounce]

You badly missed the point there kid.

Nobody, get this..... NOBODY, gives SRL any credit for Lalonde.

They don't need to, because Ray had already cemented his legacy WELL BEFORE THEN, by taking on great fighters who were in their prime.

Whereas Pacquiao's legacy is almost completely made up of Lalonde's.

EVERY SINGLE FIGHT dating back to Morales has question marks.

Catch-weights, shop-worn opponents, exhibition match's passed off as title fights, lucky decisons, OST issues, bizarre occurences both in and out of the ring, in house match-ups, and the list goes on, and on.....

And that also accounts for the fighters that Pacquiao beat since he became "special", you know the time I'm talking about..... I'm talking about since Manny gained 15lbs of muscle in less than 18 months while ripping through 3 divisions and then refusing random blood tests

Not only is his legacy highly questionable, but it is likely fraudulent as well.

It is a joke that you compared Pacquiao to Leonard.

Classic PAC HATER at his best! Every single fight dating back to morales was questionable?? wow!! HATER HATER HATER! Admit it!

[ThunderWolf]

Pacquiao cannot make 140 anymore, only 144. He underwent protein regiment in his last 3 fights and is getting old.

And being a Congressman doesn`t make you any thinner, he will not drain himself, not for journeyman JMM.

Some posters here are quite ignorant.

[chiguy91]

pacquiao is just their pampered cash cow on a pedestal. marquez isn't top rank and a tough opponent for pacquiao, regardless of his age. they know he is a threat and won't take his fight. this proposed 5 mil is just a way of turning it around him so the public thinks marquez is just talking the talk and really doesn't want the fight. they can easily give him 5 mil, it's just they know they would run a risk of pac getting really hurt in the fight. i'm not saying marquez will win, i know he won't. JMM can't KO pacquiao, so automatically you know the paid off by arum judges will favor pacquiao. the way this fight top rank sees it, is "we're going to pay a guy $5 mil to beat up our guy, but the decision will still be for our guy? naw, lets just let him school old mosley instead, he shouldnt take a beating"

[Schmerzen]

pacquiao cannot make 140 anymore, only 144. He underwent protein regiment in his last 3 fights and is getting old.

And being a congressman doesn`t make you any thinner, he will not drain himself, not for journeyman jmm.

some posters here are quite ignorant.

hahahahaha

[WESS]

I can't believe you guys keep on saying pac is ducking jmm when they have already fought twice

jmm definitely won that fight if he didn't went down in the first place.
is that pac's fault that the judges scored it a pac win mainly because of the knockdown.

pac will knock out jmm @ 147 and 140 now. only jmm die hards don't want to believe it

So, its still a better match up vs a 40 year old Shane Mosley who hasnt won a fight in 2 years and last fought at JMW. Pac should fight JMM AT 140 or Berto AT 147. End of story.

In fact, at all three weight classes it should be like this excluding Floyd because Bob never wanted to deal with him plus he's in court and Bob is on a race to get a fight signed before Floyd gets out of court. hmmm I wonder why.

All elite at there respected weight class:
Martinez AT 154
Berto AT 147
JMM AT 140

Three different weight classes and 3 different champions. The fact that Pac wont fight them AT there weight or at all is the reason people have a problem.

Too much picking and choosing certain fighters at certain weight classes at certin weights. Just like wanting a 135lber to fight at 147. Or fighting the WW champ at a catchweight after already fighting at WW once before.

Not to mention "picking" a career "cheating" WW to fight at a catchweight for a vacant JMW title. How f**ked up does that sound? Say it out loud 2 times.

"Picking" a career "cheating" WW to fight at a catchweight for a vacant JMW title.... "Picking" a career "cheating" WW to fight at a catchweight for a vacant JMW title....

Then after not even winning the WW title AT 147, he demands to fight a 135 lber AT 147? Also says that he doesn't want to fight Martinez at 154 when Martinez called him out to get back HIS (deserved) title. Why is a 5'11 Margarito ok to "pick" AT JMW but when a non cherry picked 5'10 legit JMW comes around to get HIS title back, Pac says no.....?

Why is that when a legit 135lber says lets fight, Pac says 147
Why is that when a legit 147lber says lets fight, Pac says catchweight
Why is that when a legit 154lber says lets fight, Pac says "too big"

I'll tell you why?
Pac, picking and choosing certain fighters AT certain weight classes AT certain weights. Think about it, look over the facts and it will all make sense.

Either way, JMM at 140 or 147, Mosley and Berto all get beat IMO. Berto is the best match up AT 147 while JMM is a better match up over Mosley if its at 140. Mosley shouldn't even be in the mix at this time or most likely never as he's almost 40 years old. Pac had his chance and said no.

Pac has a perfectly manufactured career as of late. They structure his fights to make it out as something it is not. Why do you think he's only been fighting Top Rank in house made too look good type fighters? God for bid he fights a non top rank fighter without a catch and that's a champion like Berto. Let alone being young undefeated and fast. NOt to mention ever stepping in the ring with a counter puncher.

Do people not notice he keeps fighting the same styled fighters?

At the end of the day I only want JMM if its AT 140. Its the fact that Pac can make 140 but chooses to make a contradicting demand of wanting to fight AT 147. I have no problem with him demanding this, just fight Berto not a Mosley.

[WESS]

Pacquiao cannot make 140 anymore, only 144. He underwent protein regiment in his last 3 fights and is getting old.

And being a Congressman doesn`t make you any thinner, he will not drain himself, not for journeyman JMM.

Some posters here are quite ignorant.

Stop being a Pac hater and making up lies about him.

[ElMeroChingon]

Pacquiao cannot make 140 anymore, only 144. He underwent protein regiment in his last 3 fights and is getting old.

And being a Congressman doesn`t make you any thinner, he will not drain himself, not for journeyman JMM.

Some posters here are quite ignorant.

Manny Pacquiao could make 140 easily. The guy forces himself to eat above 140. Id even say he could make 135 with little problems. It's darn Hilarious, this guy calling everyone ignorant.

Why are people so defensive they talk about a JMM vs MP III? The two fights he gave us were FOTY! Where did all the boxing fans go?

[WESS]

Manny Pacquiao could make 140 easily. The guy forces himself to eat above 140. Id even say he could make 135 with little problems. It's darn Hilarious, this guy calling everyone ignorant.

Why are people so defensive they talk about a JMM vs MP III? The two fights he gave us were FOTY! Where did all the boxing fans go?

I think he was joking, EVERYONE knows Pac has problems gaining weight not cutting weight or making 140. He can do it but doesn't want to. I don't think Pac wants the fight as he has said in the past he doesn't. But It's well documented that Pac has a hard time making/gaining weight.

People are sketchy about Pac vs JMM III because JMM is...

A. a very good technical counter puncher.
B. he's the last fighter to take Pac to hell (a lot to do with his style)
C. Even when Pac wins, think of how it would look if JMM's style gave him problems? Which I think they do but not enough to win.

Bob can't have that "style" give Pac problems. Especially when Floyd OWNS that style and clowned JMM. Pac beats JMM but I think for a certain little bit Pac will have serious problems but ultimately beats the shyt out of JMM towards middle to end of the fight. At his age and decline and Pac's incline will not be enough for JMM even at 140 let alone 147.

Anyway I couldn't care any less if it was Berto AT 147 or JMM AT 140. As long as its the best possible match up and those 2 AT those weights ARE.

Either way my money (as always) is on Pac. Unless its Mayweather. I've always said Pac wouldn't beat Mayweather in a very boring but brilliant and technical game of chess that Pac will have mistaken for checkers. Two VERY VERY VERY great games but on completely different levels.

[Las Vegas,]

Manny Pacquiao could make 140 easily. The guy forces himself to eat above 140. Id even say he could make 135 with little problems. It's darn Hilarious, this guy calling everyone ignorant.

Why are people so defensive they talk about a JMM vs MP III? The two fights he gave us were FOTY! Where did all the boxing fans go?

Exactly. The only reason *******s don't want this fight because they know JMM is gonna spank that ass yet again!

[spoonwars]

jmm has to prove he can fight well above 135 first.

jmm will fight morales at 140 and beat him, and then he will claim to have beaten pac twice and the man who beat pac last. this will prove he can fight above 135 and merit a fight with pac late next year.