Freddie Roach did nothing for Pacquiao skillwise other then make him stronger/faster

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  • Cuauhtémoc1520
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    #21
    Originally posted by Chups
    The TS has to feel like a complete idiot after watching something like this. The title of this video shouldn't be trick by the way, that's called counters and combinations.

    Pac's speed is incredible but one of the things he does so well is change levels so easily it's amazing.

    Pac is great, there's no tricks, gimmicks or anything else to him.

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    • MtClimber
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      #22
      Originally posted by Aiwass
      If you study Pacquiao's career, he fights the same way he's fought his whole career, the only thing Roach did for Pacquiao was introduce him to ALEX ARIZA and their mysteriously yellow powder/mix that he's talked about in the past.

      I want everybody go go back and watch earlier Pacquiao fights and more recent Pacquiao fights and the only thing you will see is a bigger stronger faster more energetic, tenacious fighter.

      who moves up in weight and throws more punches then before?
      WRONG!

      Young Pacquiao:
      do-or-die attitude, get hit to hit
      rely mostly on left hand
      throw more punches
      faster combinations


      Pacquiao Now:
      technically improved
      maximizing his right hand
      throw lesser number of punches
      slower combinations



      All he used to do was paw with his jab and set up with his left. ****, he never even threw left uppercuts either.
      Like this?
      Last edited by MtClimber; 12-20-2010, 03:43 PM.

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      • Twako
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        #23
        Originally posted by MtClimber
        dude, pac made that dude levitate for a moment there

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        • lfc19titles
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          #24
          you have no idea about this sport, he is a two handed fighter now for one, he also uses much more foot movement and angles which launching his combination punches

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            #25
            He's still the same fighter, he just looks better because he's matched against come forward sluggers and kept away from boxers with footwork.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Aiwass
              If you study Pacquiao's career, he fights the same way he's fought his whole career, the only thing Roach did for Pacquiao was introduce him to ALEX ARIZA and their mysteriously yellow powder/mix that he's talked about in the past.

              I want everybody go go back and watch earlier Pacquiao fights and more recent Pacquiao fights and the only thing you will see is a bigger stronger faster more energetic, tenacious fighter.

              who moves up in weight and throws more punches then before?
              Not really...you're probably being blind. Freddie trained to have Pacquiao use both hands instead of the predictable 1-1-2 combination that Pacquiao always use.

              Now he has the RIGHT HAND in many ways:

              • Right Hook (check hook, lead hook)
              • Hookercut (Left hook/uppercut)
              • Left Straight Cross as a LEAD "jab"
              • Various angles in his combination

              The timing, FOOTWORKS, and then some.

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              • Sin City
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                #27
                Pacquiao has always had that speed and energy. He used to have more than now. If you look as his fights in the past he was always winging punches with his arms and wasn't using his leg strength. His punches were inaccurate.

                Pacquioa has been a dominating fighter for a long time now, with the exception of a few fights.

                The difference now is he learned how to be accurate and correctly throw his punches.
                This is why he is more devastating.

                I can recall two people in the last decade that gave Pac problems.. Morales and Marquez. THATS IT.

                But haters will hate and say what they will...

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                • Twako
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Dick Gore
                  He's still the same fighter, he just looks better because he's matched against come forward sluggers and kept away from boxers with footwork.
                  err..you mean.. runners?

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                  • MtClimber
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by lfc19titles
                    you have no idea about this sport, he is a two handed fighter now for one, he also uses much more foot movement and angles which launching his combination punches
                    imo, his right hand before was underrated. True that it wasn't have that much power before but he throws it as much as his left, sometimes more.

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                    • Steak
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                      #30
                      Pacquiao HAS changed from his very early days as a flyweight and whatnot. way back then he really was mostly a one handed fighter.

                      but overall imo he has not changed much at all since the Morales fights. if you watch those you can see his counter right hooks, his footwork, his body shots, jab, combinations, etc...its all pretty much the same. which is why I was one of the few that was not surprised when he beat up DLH.

                      what people fail to realise is that just being bigger does not make you better. his opponents recently have had a size advantage, but no skill advantage compared to the likes of a Marquez or Barrera or Morales. all being big does for them against someone like Pacquiao is makes them larger targets and comparably slower.

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