If PASCAL won Just TWO (2) Rounds from the 4th to the 12th... he WINS the fight...

[Miburo]

Actually no. He draws, not wins.

30-25 after the first three rounds

50-43 with two more.

Seven rounds still remain.

If all go to Hopkins, that's 70-63

Add the two scores:

113-113

Learn to math

I do agree, however, that it wasn't a robbery. It was close, there was just no way Pascal didn't lose by at least a point at minimum

[Kenny Blankenship]

To me a knockdown should always be scored a 10-8 round and here's why:

I don't care if you completely dominated an entire round. If you hit the canvas it should be 10-8 for one very simple reason. When you get knocked down you get to rest while the ref counts. If you are winning a round, there is no rest for the other fighter UNLESS HE GOES DOWN. If you kiss the canvas, even so much as just your glove, you should lose 10-8 for the simple reason that the other fighter didn't go down and didn't get to rest. If you get a 10 second rest period you should get docked points for it...and you got knocked down! that's a big deal...to me anyway.

Just my opinion. I don't expect people to agree with it and that's okay, but that is why I believe many judges score it a 10-8 round. You kiss the canavs you deserve to get docked points for it, no matter how well you did.

[Abstraction]

Dude, many Pascal fans and Hopkins Haters are saying it how it is, Hopkins won that fight.

[Kball15]

Actually you could score one or both of those knockdown rounds a 10-9 being that hopkins won the round.*

Also many people believe hopkins won round 2 as well.


*People tend to forget a knockdown means a 10 point MUST, it is NOT a 10-8 must. If the person who is knockdown wins the round besides the knockdown, you can score it a 10-9.

you CAN but those werent really those kind of rounds. Not really a lot happened in those early rounds. they were legit 10-8

You are right - but that is only "IF" Pascal won 2 more rounds - which he did NOT do. Also, the 1st round could have and probably should have been a 10-9 round for Pascal since Hopkins actually won the round by punches landed.

That, and the fact that it was an illegal punch to the back of the head and should never have been called a knock down to begin with...

well a lot of people gave Pascal the 10th. And while Hopkins was winning one of those Knockdown rounds, those are still legit 10-8 rounds. Nothing was really happening and Hopkins def wasn't dominating that round.

So you already have Pascal with 4 rounds, 2 being 10-8. If you could find just ONE round to give to Pascal out of the other 8 rounds, its a draw. and those later rounds there were some close ones...

[The_Demon]

It wasnt a blatant robbery like some people claim,the hopkins nuthuggers get up in arms about any decision that goes against their boy

[AntDawg]

Actually you could score one or both of those knockdown rounds a 10-9 being that hopkins won the round.*

Also many people believe hopkins won round 2 as well.


*People tend to forget a knockdown means a 10 point MUST, it is NOT a 10-8 must. If the person who is knockdown wins the round besides the knockdown, you can score it a 10-9.

The only times I don't score it a 10-8 is if one person was dominating then got knocked down....Not much really happened early on to really say it was a 10-9 imo.

[elgaringo]

my opinion at the time was a draw was a fair decision! Although my opinion might well change after a second time of watching!

[freedom213]

You are right - but that is only "IF" Pascal won 2 more rounds - which he did NOT do. Also, the 1st round could have and probably should have been a 10-9 round for Pascal since Hopkins actually won the round by punches landed.

That, and the fact that it was an illegal punch to the back of the head and should never have been called a knock down to begin with...

To me that is the tragedy, the illegal punch scored as a Knock down. Had the referee done his job and simply called that an illegal punch, as it was, this fight would have been scored a UD victory for Hopkins. But this is boxing and this kind of crap happens way too often.

[BennyST]

Actually you could score one or both of those knockdown rounds a 10-9 being that hopkins won the round.*

Also many people believe hopkins won round 2 as well.


*People tend to forget a knockdown means a 10 point MUST, it is NOT a 10-8 must. If the person who is knockdown wins the round besides the knockdown, you can score it a 10-9.

Actually, unless something else dramatic happened, if the ref calls it a KD, you do have to score it a 10-8 round. If it's just a normal round which either guy could have won, but one gets a KD, it's an immediate 10-8 round.

[BennyST]

To me a knockdown should always be scored a 10-8 round and here's why:

I don't care if you completely dominated an entire round. If you hit the canvas it should be 10-8 for one very simple reason. When you get knocked down you get to rest while the ref counts. If you are winning a round, there is no rest for the other fighter UNLESS HE GOES DOWN. If you kiss the canvas, even so much as just your glove, you should lose 10-8 for the simple reason that the other fighter didn't go down and didn't get to rest. If you get a 10 second rest period you should get docked points for it...and you got knocked down! that's a big deal...to me anyway.

Just my opinion. I don't expect people to agree with it and that's okay, but that is why I believe many judges score it a 10-8 round. You kiss the canavs you deserve to get docked points for it, no matter how well you did.

The rule in boxing is that you are actually meant to score any knockdown as a 10-8 round. Whatever happens it's meant to be a 10-8 round. That is the rule in the book. However, some judges do move away from that in dramatic circumstances, and as boxing is boxing it is not often changed.

However, the official boxing rule is that any round with any KD no matter how it happened or whatever else happens, if the ref calls a KD it's a 10-8 round.