**Official SCORECARDS Hop-Pascal**

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  • u.b.r.
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    #21
    Originally posted by starjammer
    I still havn't had a chance to rewatch the fight, but I wonder why the judge scored it 10-9 in round 1. Did Hopkins have a strong first round? I don't remember too well.
    I thought Pascal was winning the round before the knockdown.

    If the referee calls a knockdown, I automatically score the round 10-8 unless the fighter who went down can come back and hurt his opponent significantly or knock him down.

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    • starjammer
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      #22
      I just watched the fight again.

      I had Pascal winning rounds 1,2,3,8 and I gave an even 5th round

      Hopkins winning 4,6,7,9,10,11,12 and an even 5th round

      I had a score total of 114-113 for Hopkins.

      Round 5 was the hardest to score in my opinion. I gave it to Pascal first time, then I had it even on second viewing. If I give that round to Pascal it's a 113-113 card.

      I don't generally like giving even rounds, so if I had to swing it would be to Pascal.

      So, yeah, close fight.

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      • Bhopreign
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        #23
        Originally posted by starjammer


        Why did the Belgian judge score the 1st round 10-9?
        Because he felt Hopkins won the round.

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        • starjammer
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          #24
          Originally posted by Bhopreign
          Because he felt Hopkins won the round.
          That's fair enough, but the round wasn't a dominant one for Hopkins, so I can't see why he would score it like that, but oh well.

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          • Bhopreign
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            #25
            If the Belgium judge scores the 10th round correctly, Hopkins wins.

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            • damned1974
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              #26
              Originally posted by Bhopreign
              If the Belgium judge scores the 10th round correctly, Hopkins wins.
              I agree.To me (I have scored this fight in various ways -some ways to attempt to favour Pascal where it may be deemed close) and still had Hopkins winning.

              The problem is-when we score fights,we have a chance to review the fight and it could be even more in Hopkins favour doing this.Nonetheless,even on watching the fight live (as the judges do when they have to immediately score their impression of the round),I still had Hopkins winning by at least 3 rounds.The closest round to score was indeed round 5.Round 10 was not tough to score,so I am not sure how Van de Wiele could have a draw round on that one and not round 5....then of course,I knew this guy is a problem judge who is likely to score as close to favourably towards the hometown guy based on his history of doing so in the past.

              To me,the problem is the knockdown in the first round-it was in the back of the head.The 4th round knockdown was the same shot,yet was ruled a illegal blow,so why wasn't the first round?

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                #27
                Originally posted by damned1974
                I agree.To me (I have scored this fight in various ways -some ways to attempt to favour Pascal where it may be deemed close) and still had Hopkins winning.

                The problem is-when we score fights,we have a chance to review the fight and it could be even more in Hopkins favour doing this.Nonetheless,even on watching the fight live (as the judges do when they have to immediately score their impression of the round),I still had Hopkins winning by at least 3 rounds.The closest round to score was indeed round 5.Round 10 was not tough to score,so I am not sure how Van de Wiele could have a draw round on that one and not round 5....then of course,I knew this guy is a problem judge who is likely to score as close to favourably towards the hometown guy based on his history of doing so in the past.

                To me,the problem is the knockdown in the first round-it was in the back of the head.The 4th round knockdown was the same shot,yet was ruled a illegal blow,so why wasn't the first round?
                In fights like this, alot of the time you kinda know who really won when the hometown judge scored it a draw.

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                  #28
                  114 - 112 hopkins

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                  • damned1974
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Bhopreign
                    In fights like this, alot of the time you kinda know who really won when the hometown judge scored it a draw.
                    I couldn't have said it much better....The winner knew who won.Pascal didn't look like a guy that won a fight,he looked like a beaten man and throughout the fight he had the look of "why did I try to cherry-pick this monster"!

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                    • MARKBNLV
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Dick Gore
                      Also, that Belgian judge looked like he had it 10-8 in the first round but changed it after.

                      smh....
                      He got his ass whooped you are tripping bro.

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