If Vargas was to retire tomorrow...

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Whew! That stung! Thats a ImSoFlyyy type response. I have respect for you.

Hell no. He's a bit better then Gatti. Nuff said.

[InThisCorner]

Love you too, sweetie pie.

[STEELHEAD]

Hell no. He's a bit better then Gatti. Nuff said.

agree totally.

imsofly this is not the kind of thread to take a poll IMO.i mean all you'll get is the obvious plus a few tounguers like the greatest_nk.

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Or nuthuggers like Runwithknives.

[Tha_Greatest]

nah, basically lost the two biggest fights of his career...no other major wins...hasn't had a great amount of fights...long layoffs...etc...etc...

Id say no but he does have a better win resume than Mosley by beating Ike Quartey, Winky Wright, Raul Marquez, Yoriboy Campas when Campas was 72-2 and held a title. He fought with heart Vs De La Hoya and Trinidad and did give them some problems till they became too much. Tito just fought dirty and hit Vargas in the Balls too much ,making Vargas very weak by round 12

[Pac Man Fan 83]

No. Not even close.

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I have never forgiven Tito for that fight against Vargas and his dirty tactics.

Id say no but he does have a better win resume than Mosley by beating Ike Quartey, Winky Wright, Raul Marquez, Yoriboy Campas when Campas was 72-2 and held a title. He fought with heart Vs De La Hoya and Trinidad and did give them some problems till they became too much. Tito just fought dirty and hit Vargas in the Balls too much ,making Vargas very weak by round 12

[Tha_Greatest]

I have never forgiven Tito for that fight against Vargas and his dirty tactics.

All those shots Tito hit Vargas with were like being hard body shots but harder, that is why Tito won this fight, Vargas had less energy due to those shots, Then Tito mightve illegally wrapped his gloves for more hand power

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Exactly, Tito was sooo good. Why the low blows. I didn't see the Hatton-Kostya fight but that low blow by Tito on Vargas stained my opinion of Tito forever even before he was exposed as being one dimensional.

[Tha_Greatest]

Exactly, Tito was sooo good. Why the low blows. I didn't see the Hatton-Kostya fight but that low blow by Tito on Vargas stained my opinion of Tito forever even before he was exposed as being one dimensional.

Tito got 2 knock downs in round 1 but by round 4, Vargas was beating Tito, he was ahead on points and winning the fight but Tito kept hitting Vargas on the balls, Vargas fought gallantly, Tito should have gotten disqualified for sure, Vargas body was hurt badly by the lowblows Tito hit him with that he couldnt fight by round 12, Anytime Vargas took command of the fight with Tito, Tito hit Vargas on the balls.