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  • #31
    It's silly to use the Mayweather fight as an indicator of Mosley's so-called "decline". Floyd's tactical style was always likely to cause Shane problems. But he's usually been in his element against fighters who've come at him.

    Mosley is ATG and still retains plenty of threat. Only a fool would write him off. Pac is the clear favourite. But this is no easy fight.

    As for Berto. When he's achieved a tenth of what either Pac or Shane has he'll move out of the Wannabee league.

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    • #32
      Lol. This is what Goosen has to resort to now that Paul got ktfo. If it wasn't for that, he'd be calling Pacquaio-Mosley a garbage fight.

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      • #33
        i figured already..wtf....as much as i rather see pac fight someone esle..
        they cant sell like shane...you have the 140 lbers but pac doesnt wanna fight at 140 no $$$ there..

        had shane beat mora than i'd say he deserves a shot..but yeah....cheato got a shot why couldnt shane..

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        • #34
          Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
          Eight-division king Manny Pacquiao will fight on May 7, rather than, April 16, in an HBO pay per view televised bout from Las Vegas, likely against 39-year-old, five-time titlist "Sugar" Shane Mosley. Trainer Joe Goossen, who once worked with Mosley, believes Pacquiao-Mosley is a good fight.

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          NO IT WONT BE COMPETETIVE I WILL NOT PAY FOR ANYMORE OF PACS GARBAGE FIGHTS, he needs to stop facing washed up ex-champions coming off of losses, in fact ive never seen a fighter get soo much credit for pretty much not beating a single guy in their career or physical prime. nobody with half a brain would think this is a good fight, nobody wants to see it but manroid and arum they dont want challenges that much is clear.a prime mosley would put away pacroid inside 5 ,this mosley is just garbage of a matchup from every angle its garbage. pac would sell even more if he faced top comp, .at this point delahoya has a better legacey of facing the absolute best pac has yet to do that.any top guy like,berto,jmm,martinez,anybody thats a threat, pac just ducks em, dont know why people praise pac for that.

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          • #35
            As long as Shane comes ready to fight without the "Parkinsons" shake he had in the Mayweather fight, I'm ok with this matchup. I think I've bought my final Pacquiao fight however until he picks a real opponent. By that I mean Berto, Bradley, even Khan for that matter. Heck, I'd even rather see him fight Malignaggi. Martinez at middleweight at a catchweight? Why not? Maybe 155 or whatever.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Pu$$yKiller View Post
              Shane is a shot MOFO.

              He can't even do padwork as hard and Pac let alone fight him for 12 rounds.

              LOL at if he hurts you, he will follow up.

              He hurt May and basically gave up. He can not throw too many hayemakers now or he gets tired.

              Pac should fight JMM or Berto, although Berto may not sell ****.
              this whole "berto wont sell " or this guy or that guy wont sell is pure bullshiaat . clottey sold who knows clottey ?? NOBODY! pac will sell with anybody, and if he faced top competetion hed sell more people arent ******, who would pay to see pac fight yet another washed up waaay-past his prime champ???? its really dishonest and its garbage. theyre gonna hype up mosley show footage of him ko'ing margs on and on. all i can say is pac has even less respect for his fans than mayweather does thats the truth, he says he fights for the fans , but keeps picking guys that have no chance at winning because theyre either old,shot or coming off of devastating ko's how fans want to see that i dont know. pac is embarrassing himself people that know better dont buy the hype, is he a solid fighter? yes, is he way ovverhyped ?absolutley, collecting a bunch of vacant paper champ , belts off of washed up ex champions isnt greatness, his 8 wt class stuff is pure bullshiaat.never faces the best period.dont thro your money away on this fight ,dont reward millionaires for not earning their money by giving us garbage matchups.

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              • #37
                The reason why we're stuck with is that most mexicans and filipinos aren't "real" boxing fans. They're just nationalists. That means they won't be tuning in for the Bradley/Alexander fight even though it's much better than what we saw from Pacman vs. Margarito. I haven't met anyone yet in my wife's family(filipino) or co-workers(mexicans) that gives a hoot whenever there's a fight without either Pacquiao or a big name Mexican fighter. It's the unfortunate truth that the best fighters don't fight each other anymore. Boxing has a small educated fan-base, and way too many uneducated fans of the big PPV's that will buy any fight Rob Arum or whoever puts in front of them as long as their man is in the ring.

                It would be nice if there was an outside governing body that mandated who fights who based on rankings or something rather than what we have now...which is guys who are protected until they get 20+ wins, then get tested a few times. If they win those crucial 2-4 fights they become elite and go back into protective care of their promoter for the remainder of their career never to fight real competition again until the twilight of their career where they posture for that one BIG megafight such as Floyd and Pac are doing now.

                Mosley is the next best thing as far as the promoters and HBO are concerned. At least he has name recognition. Maybe a few fringe fans will be swayed into getting the fight. Maybe it will will billed as some sort of American vs. Filipino thing kinda Like Rocky 4 with USA vs. U.S.S.R.

                Hate to do a UFC vs. boxing comparo, but the UFC as well as other MMA promotions have been really good about pitting the best fighters against each other. Not only that, but the all important undefeated record in boxing is not so coveted in MMA. You regularly see the "top" MMA fighters with 11-6 records or something like that. That's what happens when you take top guys and put them in amongst each other on a regular basis. As long as fans are dumb and uneducated, they'll like this crap that we keep getting from boxing. Not sure what it will take however for the fans to get wise...that's the problem.
                Last edited by speedgsx98; 12-15-2010, 10:03 PM.

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                • #38
                  Shane is the only fight that makes sense right now.

                  Pacquiao would get more fighting Shane than all the times hes fought marquez and if he would've fought berto combined. Shane is also a first ballot HOFer, piss breath and berto aint. Shane has beaten elite fighers before, piss drinker and berto have NEVER in their entire careers beat ONE elite fighter.

                  Mosley needs the money cuz Jin needs new clothes. Marquez would just piss the money away. And then drink it back up LMAO. Berto is already overpaid as is.

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                  • #39
                    I like what Joe Goosen had said. The only problem is if Shane knows that he hurt you he will follow up. Did he do that to Floyd, Floyd was almost knock down in the 2nd rd and was hurt, but he could not follow up. I'm not saying he's getting old.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by speedgsx98 View Post
                      The reason why we're stuck with is that most mexicans and filipinos aren't "real" boxing fans. They're just nationalists. That means they won't be tuning in for the Bradley/Alexander fight even though it's much better than what we saw from Pacman vs. Margarito. I haven't met anyone yet in my wife's family(filipino) or co-workers(mexicans) that gives a hoot whenever there's a fight without either Pacquiao or a big name Mexican fighter. It's the unfortunate truth that the best fighters don't fight each other anymore. Boxing has a small educated fan-base, and way too many uneducated fans of the big PPV's that will buy any fight Rob Arum or whoever puts in front of them as long as their man is in the ring.

                      It would be nice if there was an outside governing body that mandated who fights who based on rankings or something rather than what we have now...which is guys who are protected until they get 20+ wins, then get tested a few times. If they win those crucial 2-4 fights they become elite and go back into protective care of their promoter for the remainder of their career never to fight real competition again until the twilight of their career where they posture for that one BIG megafight such as Floyd and Pac are doing now.

                      Mosley is the next best thing as far as the promoters and HBO are concerned. At least he has name recognition. Maybe a few fringe fans will be swayed into getting the fight. Maybe it will will billed as some sort of American vs. Filipino thing kinda Like Rocky 4 with USA vs. U.S.S.R.

                      Hate to do a UFC vs. boxing comparo, but the UFC as well as other MMA promotions have been really good about pitting the best fighters against each other. Not only that, but the all important undefeated record in boxing is not so coveted in MMA. You regularly see the "top" MMA fighters with 11-6 records or something like that. That's what happens when you take top guys and put them in amongst each other on a regular basis. As long as fans are dumb and uneducated, they'll like this crap that we keep getting from boxing. Not sure what it will take however for the fans to get wise...that's the problem.
                      Nobody cares about UFC or MMA honestly I don't think it is a sport. Yes an entertainment for the most shallow mind. A street brawl, you hit your opponent when down, only animals does that.

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