Seriously what's up with the uppercut vulnerability?

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  • Kimo
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    Seriously what's up with the uppercut vulnerability?

    I've seen it posted here already several times, but what is up with that? Khan and Pac both have the same weakness, uppercuts just slice through their defense like its nothing. Any insiders/technicians who can elaborate on this? It must have something to do with the way Roach trains his fighters. Especially on the ropes with their hands up, it seems impossible for them to defend those huge uppercuts blasting on their chins. Maidana landed a ****load on saturday!
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    #2
    I talked about this yesterday and some people called me an idiot lol.

    check it out:

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    • Kimo
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      #3
      Originally posted by ИATAS206
      I talked about this yesterday and some people called me an idiot lol.

      check it out:

      http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...13#post9777513
      You make fair points. Though the little macho things he did was more to prove a point against his critics than anything else. But he definitely has a lot of defensive traits that Pac has as well. Can't be a coincidence right?

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        #4
        Originally posted by Kimo
        You make fair points. Though the little macho things he did was more to prove a point against his critics than anything else. But he definitely has a lot of defensive traits that Pac has as well. Can't be a coincidence right?
        right, I think naturally just training/sparring together and of course being trained by roach khan is going to pick up some things.

        I think people in my thread were making it seem like I was saying khan fights exactly like pacquiao, which I wasn't, just picked up a couple of things.

        I don't remember ever seeing khan really fight like that before but I only watched a handful of his pre-roach days.

        Roy Jones made a good point about cuffing the hand to block an uppercut...I wonder why Roach doesn't teach that.

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          #5
          I wonder if JMM could take advantage of that little weakness.

          I also wonder if JMM has can take the damage Maidana took to dish it out.

          Besides the body shot, Maidana seemed to eat his punches like candy.

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            #6
            Originally posted by ИATAS206
            right, I think naturally just training/sparring together and of course being trained by roach khan is going to pick up some things.

            I think people in my thread were making it seem like I was saying khan fights exactly like pacquiao, which I wasn't, just picked up a couple of things.

            I don't remember ever seeing khan really fight like that before but I only watched a handful of his pre-roach days.

            Roy Jones made a good point about cuffing the hand to block an uppercut...I wonder why Roach doesn't teach that.
            Well, here's hoping roach would catch on to this.

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              #7
              Originally posted by thephantom5
              I wonder if JMM could take advantage of that little weakness.

              I also wonder if JMM has can take the damage Maidana took to dish it out.

              Besides the body shot, Maidana seemed to eat his punches like candy.
              Maidana is a true 140 pounder and has one hell of a chin at that.

              I don't like JMM's chances against khan's power at 140. Well, maybe but not after he hits the canvas a couple times first

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              • Kimo
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                #8
                Originally posted by thephantom5
                I wonder if JMM could take advantage of that little weakness.

                I also wonder if JMM has can take the damage Maidana took to dish it out.

                Besides the body shot, Maidana seemed to eat his punches like candy.
                Maidana seems to eat everything like candy, even if it knocks him down. You see it in the Ortiz fight as well, it's like his berzerker mode is switched on once u get him in trouble.

                JMM does have a beautiful uppercut, but still he has to get inside to land it, Khan would keep him at a distance. JMM is not a pressure fighter like Marcos.

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                  #9
                  Is it just Manny and Amir in Roach's stable that do this?

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                    Originally posted by Kimo
                    Maidana seems to eat everything like candy, even if it knocks him down. You see it in the Ortiz fight as well, it's like his berzerker mode is switched on once u get him in trouble.

                    JMM does have a beautiful uppercut, but still he has to get inside to land it, Khan would keep him at a distance. JMM is not a pressure fighter like Marcos.
                    Agreed.

                    What do you think about a potential Maidana-Matthysse fight?

                    I would pay for that.

                    I think its an excellent comeback fight before going after Peterson, Ortiz or Judah.

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