Your Current JWW Rankings?

[supernova!]

1. guzman
2. morales
3. barrera joining them soon
4. marquez would be number 1 when he decides to


lmao on this pretentious thread!

[Steelhammer2011]

1. Khan
2. Kotelnik
3. Bradley
4. Maidana
5. Alexander

Why the hell are people ranking Alexander ahead of Kotelnik?

Kotelnik DOMINATED Alexander.

Alexander was hitting gloves and air all night. He BARELY landed any clean punches.

Kotelnik controlled the fight, he was the elusive aggressor from start to finish, he landed more punches and was landing the harder, cleaner, more accurate, more effective punches.

I scored it 118-110 for Kotelnik.

That was one of the worst robberies of all time.


Read this excellent article:

Russ Anber: Winning in America against American fighters is difficult

As I started to write this blog about the upcoming WBC world light-heavyweight title fight between world champion Jean Pascal and undefeated contender "Bad" Chad Dawson, the Don King promoted "Gateway to Greatness" card was about to begin live on HBO.

Headlining the attractive card was undefeated IBF and WBC light-welterweight champion Devon Alexander putting his title on the line against former champion and the 2000 Olympic silver medalist, Andriy Kotelnik.

Alexander was coming off an impressive eight round stoppage of durable war horse, Juan Urango, while Kotelnik was looking to erase the memory of his one-sided loss to Amir Khan in their meeting one year ago.

This was a good looking card, but in my mind it would still receive second billing to the Pascal-Dawson preview, which I was about to start writing.

All that would change, however, when three American judges; Jerry Roth, Oren Shellenberger and Denny Nelson who were either myopic, incompetent or just plain corrupt, offered up three identical scores of 116-112 in favour of the defending champion Devon Alexander. Add to that the even more ridiculous scorecard of HBO's "unofficial scorekeeper" Harold Lederman, and you have what might be one the most blatantly biased decisions rendered in an American ring in recent memory.

Before we go any further, I would like to start off by giving Devon Alexander an A+ for effort, as he showed a lot of heart in trying to turn around a fight which began slipping away as early as the second round. More importantly, however, I have to give Kotelnik credit for a masterful, surgical performance as he dominated Alexander with clean hard punches and pin point accuracy.

While it is true that Alexander was often the busier of the two, Kotelnik was clearly the aggressor and definitely the more accurate puncher. Alexander missed the target so often he looked like he was shadow boxing for the better part of the 12 rounds against the elusive Kotelnik. With hands held high, Kotelnik constantly stalked the fleet-footed Alexander and made him pay dearly every time Alexander missed. The Kotelnik right hand was a thing of beauty, and the fluidity of his punches were truly something to behold.

While there are many things which have changed in the sport over the last 10-15 years, perhaps the biggest change has been the emergence of world class fighters from the former Soviet bloc and other countries, who in the past never quite figured into the pro boxing landscape. Much like the heavyweight division, America is quickly losing the stranglehold it once held on the sport. While still a power, it is evident that more and more world champions are being reared in places on the planet other than the U.S. or Latin countries, and this is not making U.S. television very happy.

In the end of what was a brilliant contest, a new champion should have been crowned Saturday night in St. Louis. Instead, the sport of boxing now sports another black eye. Three judges, who should know better, rendered a decision which by all circumstances can be construed as nothing but bias and pro-American.

Is it merely a coincidence that such a horrific decision, robbing Andriy Kotelnik of a world title, comes at a time when negotiations are ongoing between Devon Alexander and Timothy Bradley for a showdown in January on HBO?

Please, don't ever let me hear another American media member, promoter, boxer, manager, trainer or anyone else for that matter EVER criticize again, how impossible it is for an American to win on Canadian or European soil. On Saturday night, three American judges proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that winning in America against an American fighter, especially one who has a TV contract, is becoming increasingly more difficult. Ask Kotelinik, or for that matter, ask Simon Brown!

Oh, Simon Brown! Please don't get me started again!!!!

[Steelhammer2011]

Alexander the fraud is Kotelnik's bitch.

[supernova!]

1. Khan
2. Kotelnik
3. Bradley
4. Maidana
5. Alexander

Why the hell are people ranking Alexander ahead of Kotelnik?

Kotelnik DOMINATED Alexander.

Alexander was hitting gloves and air all night. He BARELY landed any clean punches.

Kotelnik controlled the fight, he was the elusive aggressor from start to finish, he landed more punches and was landing the harder, cleaner, more accurate, more effective punches.

I scored it 118-110 for Kotelnik.

That was one of the worst robberies of all time.


Read this excellent article:

Russ Anber: Winning in America against American fighters is difficult

As I started to write this blog about the upcoming WBC world light-heavyweight title fight between world champion Jean Pascal and undefeated contender "Bad" Chad Dawson, the Don King promoted "Gateway to Greatness" card was about to begin live on HBO.

Headlining the attractive card was undefeated IBF and WBC light-welterweight champion Devon Alexander putting his title on the line against former champion and the 2000 Olympic silver medalist, Andriy Kotelnik.

Alexander was coming off an impressive eight round stoppage of durable war horse, Juan Urango, while Kotelnik was looking to erase the memory of his one-sided loss to Amir Khan in their meeting one year ago.

This was a good looking card, but in my mind it would still receive second billing to the Pascal-Dawson preview, which I was about to start writing.

All that would change, however, when three American judges; Jerry Roth, Oren Shellenberger and Denny Nelson who were either myopic, incompetent or just plain corrupt, offered up three identical scores of 116-112 in favour of the defending champion Devon Alexander. Add to that the even more ridiculous scorecard of HBO's "unofficial scorekeeper" Harold Lederman, and you have what might be one the most blatantly biased decisions rendered in an American ring in recent memory.

Before we go any further, I would like to start off by giving Devon Alexander an A+ for effort, as he showed a lot of heart in trying to turn around a fight which began slipping away as early as the second round. More importantly, however, I have to give Kotelnik credit for a masterful, surgical performance as he dominated Alexander with clean hard punches and pin point accuracy.

While it is true that Alexander was often the busier of the two, Kotelnik was clearly the aggressor and definitely the more accurate puncher. Alexander missed the target so often he looked like he was shadow boxing for the better part of the 12 rounds against the elusive Kotelnik. With hands held high, Kotelnik constantly stalked the fleet-footed Alexander and made him pay dearly every time Alexander missed. The Kotelnik right hand was a thing of beauty, and the fluidity of his punches were truly something to behold.

While there are many things which have changed in the sport over the last 10-15 years, perhaps the biggest change has been the emergence of world class fighters from the former Soviet bloc and other countries, who in the past never quite figured into the pro boxing landscape. Much like the heavyweight division, America is quickly losing the stranglehold it once held on the sport. While still a power, it is evident that more and more world champions are being reared in places on the planet other than the U.S. or Latin countries, and this is not making U.S. television very happy.

In the end of what was a brilliant contest, a new champion should have been crowned Saturday night in St. Louis. Instead, the sport of boxing now sports another black eye. Three judges, who should know better, rendered a decision which by all circumstances can be construed as nothing but bias and pro-American.

Is it merely a coincidence that such a horrific decision, robbing Andriy Kotelnik of a world title, comes at a time when negotiations are ongoing between Devon Alexander and Timothy Bradley for a showdown in January on HBO?

Please, don't ever let me hear another American media member, promoter, boxer, manager, trainer or anyone else for that matter EVER criticize again, how impossible it is for an American to win on Canadian or European soil. On Saturday night, three American judges proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that winning in America against an American fighter, especially one who has a TV contract, is becoming increasingly more difficult. Ask Kotelinik, or for that matter, ask Simon Brown!

Oh, Simon Brown! Please don't get me started again!!!!

marley is that you?

[NORMAN BLACK]

where's nate Campbell?

[Steelhammer2011]

Even the racist black supremacist Mayweather said Kotelnik clearly beat Alexander.

[KnockUTheFukOut]

I think they are ALL a little overrated and all have bad weaknesses (especially defensively) but I agree with most of the Top 5 people have...Bradley still remains #1, Khan #2 and Alexander #3

[talz]

I'm aware but dismissing losses that happend not too long ago (you make 2 years sound longer than they actually are) is wrong. Khan did not lose to Prescott because he was weight drained (one weight class) but because he was inferior. Amir Khan 2010 has improved ridiculously and that's why I rate him highly but his loss was not too long ago (it's not like bashing Wlad for his losses to Purrity and Sanders which is ridiculous at this point) and it was devastating, no point in arguing about it. In fact, hardly anybody on here has him at #1 and I'm pretty sure that's why. His resume aside from that LKO1 is respectable with Maidana, Barrera, Kotelnik and Malignaggi.

Khan supporter by the way.

2 Years is a long time in boxing terms and he's fought 6 fights after that loss. He was weight drained as he used to lose 15 pounds 2-3 days prior to the fight. Explain how maidana landed about 10-20 clean hard shots on khan, without flooring him? Maidana hits harder than prescott as well! Khan would only be inferior to prescott if he got outboxed and KO'd after a few rounds, but it was in the first 60 seconds! Prescott got lucky imo and if they ever fought now khan would stop him.

[DARKSEID]

1. Bradley
2. Khan
3. Maidana
4. Alexander

[Dirk Diggler UK]

1. Bradley
2. Khan
3. Kotelnik
4. Maidana
5. Alexander