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  • Pullcounter
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    #11
    Originally posted by PrinceCharlez
    After the Manny vs Margarito fight lets face the facts, his whole target was Mosley. They been talking bout a Mosley fight since his win over margarito or a possible show down with marquez. Everybody knew the FLoyd fight wasnt going to happen and probably never will. Everybody knew the berto fight wasnt going to happen after his ko performance. Everybody knew the Martinez fight wasnt going to happen at JMW. Everybody knew he wasnt going to fight marquez at 140.....stop acting like you didnt know..


    Quit using floyd as an excuse for why he is not fighting berto, martinez, marquez. Floyd beat Mosley last may, why the hell would he be fighting mosley when his last two fights were not good and all his other options are all coming off KO PERFORMANCES...
    tweet wifebeater and tell him to call todd duboef asap! there might still be time!

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    • Espada
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      #12
      I heard Pac's lawyer yesterday that Marquez was asking for 5 million dollars and a lot more money on the PPV profits.

      Berto is not a money fight

      Floyd has been on vacation poking security guards ducking a PAcquiao fight

      Pacquiao who weighs 144 lb on a Jr Middleweight fight have to fight a 170+ Pounder guy when Margarito has been fighting his whole life at 147. Pac will stay at 147 until his career is done

      Mosley the Black fighter is the next logical choice

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        #13
        Just like Mayweather, Pacquiao is in a position where he can pick and choose who he wants to fight. I don't believe Mayweather right now is ready to the fight Pacquiao for numerous reasons, but at the same time it's kind of silly to start dissin Pacquiao's selection of opponents like he's been fighting nothing but bums.

        Mind you, a year and a half ago this is what we saw from many of Pacquiao's skeptics:

        "Hatton is too big and strong for Pacquiao, Hatton's fighting at HIS weight"

        "Cotto is gonna be too big & strong for Pacquiao. Cotto is a LEGIT Welterweight"


        If you don't like Pacquiao, that's cool. You can't please everyone. But a lot of people here (just like the Mayweather haters) will always find something to try to discredit Pacquiao with. But as it stands, he's already faced guys not only Mayweather's never fought (at Welterweight) but guys no Boxing fan today every envisioned him ever fighting. How many people in 2007 had a thought in their mind that a Cotto vs Pacquiao fight was even possible. Skip 2 yrs, Pacquiao fights and destroys Cotto...yet Cotto was shot and was a bum.

        It'll never end...

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        • jai mari078
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          #14
          Originally posted by PrinceCharlez
          After the Manny vs Margarito fight lets face the facts, his whole target was Mosley. They been talking bout a Mosley fight since his win over margarito or a possible show down with marquez. Everybody knew the FLoyd fight wasnt going to happen and probably never will. Everybody knew the berto fight wasnt going to happen after his ko performance. Everybody knew the Martinez fight wasnt going to happen at JMW. Everybody knew he wasnt going to fight marquez at 140.....stop acting like you didnt know..


          Quit using floyd as an excuse for why he is not fighting berto, martinez, marquez. Floyd beat Mosley last may, why the hell would he be fighting mosley when his last two fights were not good and all his other options are all coming off KO PERFORMANCES...
          By that logic, why did Floyd fight Zab after he lost to Baldomir? Why did Floyd fight a lightweight in Marquez and still come in over weight after Pac fought him twice? Why did he fight a war ridden old Gatti that Oscar destroyed years prior? I could go on and on. Using the why is he fighting Mosley because Floyd already beat him is weak!!!!

          Mosley wasn't prime when Floyd fought him and isn't prime now. He's fighing him because he's waiting on Floyd to come off vacation, go to court or whatever other excuse he can come up with. Yes this fight with Floyd will never happen. I've been saying that from the beginning.

          What is Floyd gonna do if and when the Pac fight doesn't happens? We all know he's not gonna take a risky fight against a fighter in his prime. You really think he's gonna fight a Berto, Martinez ir any of the other young up and coming stars? He never has and never wil. So if he doesn't fight Pac he may as well retire because who is left? Pac has already fought Marquz twice, this is a keep busy fight with the hopes of waiting Mayweather out, but like I said this fight will never happen unless Floyd has all the advantages which Pac will not let happen. Floyd needs to realize he will have t make some compromises and meet in the middle and that wil never happen either.

          Your why is he fighting Mosley because Floyd already beat him is ridiculous logic as I pointed out above.

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          • Horus
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            #15
            Pacquiao and His fans are using Floyd as a reason to cherrypick.
            Plain and Simple.

            Clottey= Nobody
            Cotto = Catchweight and Shot
            Margarito= Catchweight and extra shot

            He gets credit for the hatton win.
            Even Pacquiao doubted himself in that fight. Saying himself if he loses it is in god's will. Never before or never again have I heard Pacquiao speak like that.

            But as of late this dude. Is a cherrypicker.and he is has showed to be a one trick pony in his selection.

            Handicapin fights by catchweightin them just makes it worst.
            If he didnt need the catchweights he wouldnt demand them.
            the guy is making fighters fight with one hand behind their backs.

            Why doesnt Pacquiao fight somebody like Berto instead of a faded mosley. Maybe because Berto Upper cut would stop **** quickly.
            Handspeed Berto and Pacquiao might be tied.

            I love to see a Pacquiao berto match, But instead we get another faded, shot fighter. I wouldnt be surprised if he fought Eric Morales next.
            Last edited by Horus; 12-13-2010, 05:26 PM.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Horus
              Pacquiao and His fans are using Floyd as a reason to cherrypick.
              Plain and Simple.

              Clottey= Nobody
              Cotto = Catchweight and Shot
              Margarito= Catchweight and extra shot

              He gets credit for the hatton win.
              Even Pacquiao doubted himself in that fight. Saying himself if he loses it is in god's will. Never before or never again have I heard Pacquiao speak like that.

              But as of late this dude. Is a cherrypicker.and he is has showed to be a one trick pony in his selection.

              Handicapin fights by catchweightin them just makes it worst.
              If he didnt need the catchweights he wouldnt demand them.
              the guy is making fighters fight with one hand behind their backs.

              Why doesnt Pacquiao fight somebody like Berto instead of a faded mosley. Maybe because Berto Upper cut would stop **** quickly.
              Handspeed Berto and Pacquiao might be tied.

              I love to see a Pacquiao berto match, But instead we get another faded, shot fighter. I wouldnt be surprised if he fought Eric Morales next.
              why doesn't floyd fight someone like berto? or cotto? or margarito? or matinez? or ANYONE?

              ya'll act ****** on purpose. Berto vs pacquiao or mosley vs pacquiao, which one makes the bob father more money? that's what it boils down to.

              for the record I've stated (even b4 margarito) I wanted a unification bout at 147 (which meant berto, if no floyd).


              Twitchin Shane Molsey vs Pac isn't the worst fight in the world, but it should be considered a mismatch and pac should clearly win. If floyd still isn't available by the end of 2011, hopefully Berto gets an actual name on his resume by then and that can happen.

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              • Horus
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                #17
                Originally posted by ИATAS206
                why doesn't floyd fight someone like berto? or cotto? or margarito? or matinez? or ANYONE?

                ya'll act ****** on purpose. Berto vs pacquiao or mosley vs pacquiao, which one makes the bob father more money? that's what it boils down to.

                for the record I've stated (even b4 margarito) I wanted a unification bout at 147 (which meant berto, if no floyd).


                Twitchin Shane Molsey vs Pac isn't the worst fight in the world, but it should be considered a mismatch and pac should clearly win. If floyd still isn't available by the end of 2011, hopefully Berto gets an actual name on his resume by then and that can happen.
                My dude, Stop the bull****.
                You know the difference between Mayweather and Pacquiao.


                Floyd Mayweather Jr: Part Time Fighter

                Floyd Mayweather Jr.
                First Pro Fight: 10/11/1996
                Last Pro Fight: 5/1/2010
                Current Career: 14 years, 3 Months, 11 Days.

                From 1996-1998: 19 Fights in 3 Years [AVERAGE: 6.0 fights per 12 mos]
                From 1998-2002: 17 Fights in 5 Years [AVERAGE: 3.4 fights per 12 mos]
                From 2002-2006: 10 fights in 5 Years [AVERAGE: 2 fights per 12 mos]
                From 2006-2010: 6 Fights in 3 Years [AVERAGE: 2 fights per 12 mos]

                Longest Inactivity: 9 months (5/22/2004 – 1/22/2005)
                *Not including retirement*

                In order for Floyd Mayweather to exceed his longest Inactivity mark he would not have to fight before February 2, 2011. Anytime after that he would set a new mark for his personal longest Inactivity.

                Considering the stats as listed up above, it is clear to see Mayweather will probably exceed his longest inactivity mark, and moreso continue his pattern of dimishing his number of fights he has every four years.

                In short Floyd Mayweather Jr. is offically a Part Time Fighter.
                He fights once a year. When he comes back he does fight in big fights. Unlike Pacquiao. He is fighting shot fighters, and handicaping at the same time.

                Manny Pacquiao isnt a part time fighter. He doesnt basically fights once a year. The last fighter Pacquiao fought in their prime was JMM and most people thought he lose including one of the judges.


                We just want to see fight somebody in their prime, without a catchweight, who isnt coming off a damaging Knockout or loss.


                Not that Hard.
                fight Berto or Martinez and stop using Mayweather inactivity as a excuse.

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                  #18
                  Quit using retirements, vacations, jail time, tax problems, losses, drawing power, distance of country, etc., etc., as a reason for Floyd to duck prime welterweights.

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                  • Horus
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Johnny Chingas
                    Quit using retirements, vacations, jail time, tax problems, losses, drawing power, distance of country, etc., etc., as a reason for Floyd to duck prime welterweights.

                    Mayweather has been the offical Lineal Welterweight champion twice.
                    He had to fought somebody to get that title.

                    No welterweight in the past 20 years can say they have been the
                    offical lineal welterweight champion twice!

                    Learn some ****!

                    You can not change facts, only your argument!
                    Last edited by Horus; 12-13-2010, 06:12 PM.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by PrinceCharlez
                      After the Manny vs Margarito fight lets face the facts, his whole target was Mosley. They been talking bout a Mosley fight since his win over margarito or a possible show down with marquez. Everybody knew the FLoyd fight wasnt going to happen and probably never will. Everybody knew the berto fight wasnt going to happen after his ko performance. Everybody knew the Martinez fight wasnt going to happen at JMW. Everybody knew he wasnt going to fight marquez at 140.....stop acting like you didnt know..


                      Quit using floyd as an excuse for why he is not fighting berto, martinez, marquez. Floyd beat Mosley last may, why the hell would he be fighting mosley when his last two fights were not good and all his other options are all coming off KO PERFORMANCES...
                      Stop using Manny as an excuse to not have to come up with a thread that doesn't have Manny attached to it.

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