Comments Thread For: Haye: Wladimir Klitschko Has No Legacy, He Needs Me

[Seleção No. 13]

This thread title is LOL

[Dave Rado]

Sorry he's not undisputed, that's a fact.

According to your apparent definition of undisputed (that if there is anyone anywhere in the world who disputes it) there has never been an undisputed champion in history.

He's as undisputed as anyone ever has been.

[FloydTBE]

cant wait to see the fight

[Rick Grimes]

According to your apparent definition of undisputed (that if there is anyone anywhere in the world who disputes it) there has never been an undisputed champion in history.

He's as undisputed as anyone ever has been.

Not my definition, to be undisputed you need to win all 4 of the major belts. Last time i looked Wlad's missing 2.

[Dave Rado]

Not my definition, to be undisputed you need to win all 4 of the major belts. Last time i looked Wlad's missing 2.

That is the ******est definition of undisputed I've ever seen.

Naz was undisputed champion while holding no alphabet belts at all. So was Hatton.

[dvb]

credit to wlad hes done a lot,but people in time will look at the state of the division and be less impressed.
they will see he got beat bad 3 times at different stages of his career,that forced him to fight cautious despite being a massive puncher with crazy size advantages and good skill to do more than he does.

He still has not had one career defining legendary fight vs one guy who was atleast as good as him.His nemisis,theres no foreman to his fraizer,or ali to his fraiser,or marquez to his pacman ect ect.

maybe he and vitali emancipate each other or what ever!,lol.
and fight each other.

cuz even if either or both do beat haye,the heavyweight division still wont be unified,there wont be a clear no 1 still.

Haye has a lot of hate as hes percieved as a coward for not facing either klitschko the first few times because he wanted to get himself a better contract after proving himself at heavyweight and being a former cruiserweight champion(if anyone other guy who was undisputed or considered the best at his weight who moved up to fight the best at another weight,they would get offered a respectful deal recognising his achievements)

and because the 2nd time his setanta! and back broke?,so he wouldnt have got paid so it was common sense to hold it off till another time.

and now that he has a title and more of a name people are mad that he isnt letting the klitschko dominate and beat him and him submit to their demands before he even steps in the ring!.he seems to be the one whos trying to offer different options,they just say no and walk away without comprimise or any suggestions.

still the facts are :

David Haye did become the best mutli titlist "unified" major belts champion at cruiserweight.

2 of the supposed toughest guys out there he fought,and beat in dramatic fashion knocking both out.

And hes succesfully come up to heavyweight to win wba title vs a massively bigger opponent(even if u consider valuev a crap boxer or not)haye dominated valuev with great boxing skills and with a broken right hand for most the fight.

Wether or not hes faced bum fighters,hes destroyed them,and made most fights look more interesting than any other heavyweight fights of today and still won showning skills and power and looking aggresive and purposeful.


I bet if klitschkos fought ruiz and valuev and beat them like Haye did people woudlnt complain but proclaim the klitschkos still mighty and amazing heavyweights.

some people didnt hate on wlad for signing to fight chisora,but lambasted haye for fighting harrison who had more experience and made more money fighting haye,than wlad would have prob made fighting a lesser name in chisora.

[Rick Grimes]

That is the ******est definition of undisputed I've ever seen.

Naz was undisputed champion while holding no belts at all. So was Hatton.

You don't no ****. You are talking about lineal champion not undisputed.

[Dave Rado]

You don't no ****. You are talking about lineal champion not undisputed.

I'm talking about both. And for someone who spouts such ignorant rubbish as you do (and who can't even spell "know") to claim someone else doesn't "no" **** is hilarious.

But while lineal usually equals undisputed, that's not always the case. Erdie was lineal champ for years but no one regarded him as the real world champion. But apart from anomalies like Erdei (and Shannon Briggs and others), the two are usually synonymous.

If you seriously think that Pacquiao needs to beat Vyacheslav Senchenko (who holds a bullshit alphabet title) rather than Mayweather (who doesn't) in order to be considered the undisputed Welterweight champion then you're insane.

[Rick Grimes]

I'm talking about both. And for someone who spouts such ignorant rubbish as you do (and who can't even spell "know") to claim someone else doesn't "no" **** is hilarious.

But while lineal usually equals undisputed, that's not always the case. Erdie was lineal champ for years but no one regarded him as the real world champion. But apart from anomalies like Erdei (and Shannon Briggs and others), the two are usually synonymous.

If you seriously think that Pacquiao needs to beat Vyacheslav Senchenko (who holds a bullshit alphabet title) rather than Mayweather (who doesn't) in order to be considered the undisputed Welterweight champion then you're insane.

Lineal doesn't = undisputed. Never has, never will. Try again.

edit: Pacquiao doesn't become undisputed WW champ if he beats Mayweather either. Where are you getting this ****?

[Dave Rado]

Lineal doesn't = undisputed. Never has, never will. Try again.

Keep wallowing in your imaginary dream-world. I have better things to do with my life than argue endlessly with fantasises.