How quickly would Valero have knocked Khan out?

[ikim322]

When it pertains to a fighter he likes, he's a fuckin child.

Fairly prevalent among several posters from what I've seen. It's amazing.

[PainKiller]

To ikim322.

I am on my i phone so i can't quote such a big post and reply.

Anyway khan beats valero easily.

Mosquero is a bum compared to khan and so is demarco. Khan was 24 on the 8 dec, so what the **** does age have to so with anything?

Demarco is still **** until he proves otherwise.

Again, who is the best guy valero has faced.

Paulie would give valero a hell of a lotnof trouble. His speed and movement would not allow valero to set up. Valero likes someone to stand and trade.

Paulie also has a great chin, he took hard shots from cotto, hatton and khan. He can take valeros shots who have stopped a lot of bums.

Valero would get tagged by paulie no doubt in my mind. He had no defence. Also i said trouble, can't you read?

[Bastian Loc]

When it pertains to a fighter he likes, he's a fuckin child.

You bet on Paul Williams to beat Martinez, you have no credibility.

[ikim322]

I give Khan props and I think him and Maidana are the best at 140, but to pretend Joke Khortez didn't have anything to do with him surviving is asinine.

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There was a moment...I think either late in the 10th or 11th where Amir was clearly hurt, they came together in a clinch, and Maidana just kept swinging away hitting the back of Amir's head clearly multiple times even if they weren't vicious blows. Cortez broke them up while Amir complained briefly and then immediately clapped his hands together to get them going without as much of a warning or any time taken off.

I agree Cortez isn't a good ref. And the point deduction was debatable (but seriously...stop throwing a ****ing elbow if you don't wanna be penalized then Maidana? how about that?). But all this outrage over the ref's involvement in the outcome of the fight last night is overblown.

[Bastian Loc]

Fairly prevalent among several posters from what I've seen. It's amazing.

What is your major malfunction numbnuts?


Were you wearing a blindfold when you saw that fight or what?

[ikim322]

To ikim322.

I am on my i phone so i can't quote such a big post and reply.

Anyway khan beats valero easily.

Mosquero is a bum compared to khan and so is demarco. Khan was 24 on the 8 dec, so what the **** does age have to so with anything?

Demarco is still **** until he proves otherwise.

Again, who is the best guy valero has faced.

Paulie would give valero a hell of a lotnof trouble. His speed and movement would not allow valero to set up. Valero likes someone to stand and trade.

Paulie also has a great chin, he took hard shots from cotto, hatton and khan. He can take valeros shots who have stopped a lot of bums.

Valero would get tagged by paulie no doubt in my mind. He had no defence. Also i said trouble, can't you read?

DeMarco did not stand and trade with Valero. He tried to keep him on the long end of his jab. Which worked. For 1 round. Contrary to your ignorant 1 clip view of Valero only wanting people to stand up and trade against him, he actually managed to find a way to everyone's chin with the competition he did face. And yeah gym wars are not the best source but he obviously devastated many good fighters in the gym. It can't count for nothing. Do you know that he went out and openly bet a sum of money on Pacquaio for Pacquaio vs Morales 1 because he was in Morales's camp and was just beating the **** out of him? Clips were posted. I'd mention that he got sent home from De La Hoya's camp because he was tagging him but I guess that doesn't have much weight since ODLH wasn't elite at the tail end of his career.

It all doesn't matter. You're basing your assumptions on "who has he faced." When you clearly didn't know WHY he wasn't in with top competition. Didn't know his story. Think Malignaggi could him off based on him just having power when in fact a blindfolded monkey could see that he had boxing technique and 'just power' would never have gotten him top dog status in gym wars...as they wear head gear and such with knocking people the **** out (his only strength according to idiots like you) is mostly nullified.

[ikim322]

What is your major malfunction numbnuts?


Were you wearing a blindfold when you saw that fight or what?

Read your posts out loud to yourself. You'll see where the malfunction is.

[Bastian Loc]

Read your posts out loud to yourself. You'll see where the malfunction is.

You're probably the most biased poster I've seen on here. Trying to pass of your opinion as fact and insulting other posters in the process who don't agree with you.

How do you sleep at night?

Honestly?

[ikim322]

You bet on Paul Williams to beat Martinez, you have no credibility.

Way to be results oriented with hindsight after the fact just like the rest of the brain depraved population here. I bet $165 to win $150 on Martinez. It was at -110 odds. And I liked my pick. But didn't think it was a lock. And really nobody expected a 2nd round KO. So if you were so sure Martinez was going to win and that he's such an idiot for betting Williams, you should be a millionaire right now right? Coz only idiots bet on Williams in that fight so you should've bet everything you had right? Sure thing? ****ing idiot.

[PainKiller]

There was a moment...I think either late in the 10th or 11th where Amir was clearly hurt, they came together in a clinch, and Maidana just kept swinging away hitting the back of Amir's head clearly multiple times even if they weren't vicious blows. Cortez broke them up while Amir complained briefly and then immediately clapped his hands together to get them going without as much of a warning or any time taken off.

I agree Cortez isn't a good ref. And the point deduction was debatable (but seriously...stop throwing a ****ing elbow if you don't wanna be penalized then Maidana? how about that?). But all this outrage over the ref's involvement in the outcome of the fight last night is overblown.

Finally some common sense from you.

Khan did show his back twice, clearly hurt and maidana showed his back once from a wild swing. All times cortez jumped in.

Late 11th, khan shook his head to the tef suggesting he was ok. When he walked back he looked out of it though.

Maidana had his chances, heck khan stood there with gloves up and maidana didn't capitalise.

I gave the 11th a draw, khan uad a few good moments and maidana too, and even the 12th khan jad a great last 30 secs.

Cortez has always jumped in to stop it when it is messy.

In a rematch khan learns to hold his left and neer go to his left without it.

Wihout that 10th round, khan would have won the 11th and 12th imo. It was already close in terms of rounds.