Manny vs JMM at 142?

[FloydTBE]

f*k the CW, 140lbs

[ThePrince]

I think catchweights are BullShyt! But like I saw a guy say on here..
If you're gonna enjoy the advantages of a catchweight, then you should be willing to take on the disadvantages also.

But this is one I'd support.
Manny would win, but how good will he look... Or should I say, how bad will JMM make him look..

Of course you would... err, until Marquez gets knocked out cold in the 3rd. Then it'll be 'see I done told y'all Manny a catchweight king and Marquez was shot'.

The ship for a competitive fight between Manny and Juan Manuel sailed a few years and about 15 pounds ago. Now, it would look worse than the Morales rematches, it'd be very Hattonesque.

[cixthree]

Of course you would... err, until Marquez gets knocked out cold in the 3rd. Then it'll be 'see I done told y'all Manny a catchweight king and Marquez was shot'.

The ship for a competitive fight between Manny and Juan Manuel sailed a few years and about 15 pounds ago. Now, it would look worse than the Morales rematches, it'd be very Hattonesque.

Damn, did I say all that? I guess you missed the part where I said ( Manny would win)
I don't know what would happen if they fought at 142, all I know is I'd like to see it.
If Manny wins cool, if JMM pulls it off cool.... I'm just saying 142 is a safe weight to meet.
Like I said, Manny just weighed in at 144 eating 7000 cals a day. Having to not eat all that, Manny should be able to go to 140 if he wanted.

[FloydTBE]

140lbs is fair on both guys

[ThePrince]

Damn, did I say all that? I guess you missed the part where I said ( Manny would win)
I don't know what would happen if they fought at 142, all I know is I'd like to see it.
If Manny wins cool, if JMM pulls it off cool.... I'm just saying 142 is a safe weight to meet.
Like I said, Manny just weighed in at 144 eating 7000 cals a day. Having to not eat all that, Manny should be able to go to 140 if he wanted.

Marquez has no business fighting above 135, he has only made the limit once in 4 fights at LW if I'm not mistaken. He is a career featherweight and is doing well at LW, where he should stay. At his age, going up 2 divisions, catchweight or not, is a horrible idea... especially against a guy who is decimating much bigger opponents and is at his peak right now. That just sounds like sanctioned suicide, no matter how good Marquez is.

And Manny may consume 7,000 calories a day but he also trains like a man possessed so that burns a lot of that fuel. Ariza and Roach figured out Manny's optimal fighting weight is 144-146 and they see no reason to have him drain himself any more when he can eat a ton, burn it off/turn it into lean muscle, and then only put on 3-4 lbs in water weight the night/day before the fight. The results of that strategy have spoken for themselves in the last few years.

Even cutting an extra 2lbs won't stop a brutal massacre of a bloated, slow Marquez. Absolutely pointless fight at this point. Manny should fight Berto at 147, but he doesn't generate any $ and he's not part of Top Rank's roster so Mosley it is unfortunately, but at least Shane is a real welter.

[cixthree]

Marquez has no business fighting above 135, he has only made the limit once in 4 fights at LW if I'm not mistaken. He is a career featherweight and is doing well at LW, where he should stay. At his age, going up 2 divisions, catchweight or not, is a horrible idea... especially against a guy who is decimating much bigger opponents and is at his peak right now. That just sounds like sanctioned suicide, no matter how good Marquez is.

And Manny may consume 7,000 calories a day but he also trains like a man possessed so that burns a lot of that fuel. Ariza and Roach figured out Manny's optimal fighting weight is 144-146 and they see no reason to have him drain himself any more when he can eat a ton, burn it off/turn it into lean muscle, and then only put on 3-4 lbs in water weight the night/day before the fight. The results of that strategy have spoken for themselves in the last few years.

Even cutting an extra 2lbs won't stop a brutal massacre of a bloated, slow Marquez. Absolutely pointless fight at this point. Manny should fight Berto at 147, but he doesn't generate any $ and he's not part of Top Rank's roster so Mosley it is unfortunately, but at least Shane is a real welter.

LOL, damn ok dude... Manny is all mighty, forgive me....

[FloydTBE]

arum is demanding too much,

[Castor_Troy]

I think catchweights are BullShyt! But like I saw a guy say on here..
If you're gonna enjoy the advantages of a catchweight, then you should be willing to take on the disadvantages also.

But this is one I'd support.
Manny would win, but how good will he look... Or should I say, how bad will JMM make him look..

tangatalaganitooh

We're talking about catchweights not Manny Pacquiao.

so you like cathweights or not?

[Castor_Troy]

140lbs is fair on both guys

Agreed.


What's your stand on catchweights? do you like it or not?

[GreatRubdini]

140lbs is fair on both guys

I agree Pacquiao can make 140 but they dont want him to because he has an advantage at 147... i remember watching Pacquiao-Cotto(maybe was Dela Hoya) 24/7 that Ariza was saying Manny can make 135 but he has to consume alot calories just to stay at welter