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Really? Is it that, or is it the competition he has fought? Because he looked much much worse against Marquez, losing 8-9 rounds. Lucky Marquez goes down easy or that would have been a landslide unanimous decision for Marquez.
Which fight can I view to see the kinks worked out? Is it DLH? Not much to see there, as DLH was in no condition to fight. Was it Clottey or Margarito?
Come on bro. Just cause Roach says he's different doesn't mean he is. He has all the same moves, and throws all the same punches. He looks the same to me. Put him in with a guy who can punch and has speed then we'll see if what you say is true...Comment
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Dude I'm not going by what Roach says, I'm using my own eyes and watching Pac's improved movement around the ring, his technique is completely different. He's gone from face first brawler to a fighter than uses more in and out and side to side movement. The brawling is only part of his game these days.Comment
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How are you gonna give an edited video of a fight any kind of credibility?
Watch the whole fight if you want to know what happened. Pacquiao never gave up, was never out of the fight and this was when he was still a 1 dimensional fighter against a mexican legend.
Even in the edited video you showed, pac was still throwing 4-5 punch combinations.
It's no secret pac is weak in the body, and Morales murdered Pac's body with punches he couldn't see because of the cut in this fight.Last edited by DARKSEID; 12-09-2010, 12:13 AM.Comment
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I have seen near every Pacquiao fight, all that are available.
In your other post you say "You are going by what you see with your eye's."
Show me something different. I can show you a fight with marquez from 2008 where Pacquiao is literally picked apart and literally taught a lesson in boxing. He looked the same as he always did.
Can you tell me which fight you are referring to so I can watch it with my eyes and perhaps we can see the same thing. I would love to see this, as many Pinoy's are talking about this new technique and greatness yet I have yet to see it. I must be missing something.Comment
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Because the fighter you are a decade ago, is exactly what you are today, and it's impossible to learn or change who you are in 10 years. Use your brain man, you're not helping your argument in any way by being ******.
This is back when Pacquiao didn't have a right hand. This is back when Pacquiao didn't study tapes. This is back when Pac didn't give a **** about anything except knocking people out as hard and as fast as possible, and had no strategy, no balance, nothing but determination and a straight left hand.Last edited by DARKSEID; 12-09-2010, 12:15 AM.Comment
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The problem with cotto, actually, isn't speed or number of punches. It's bad tendencies, like admiring his work which he does ALL the time.
Cotto has the bad tendency of landing something big, and then admiring his work and posing. Stepping back to bounce, drop his hands after landing a right as if to show the audience it landed, etc.
Against both margi and pac, guys who throw long combinations, or just a lot of punches ingeneral.. there were a LOT of times cotto would get hit while posing or admiring his work.. because there were too many punches coming, and that bad habbit would resurface.
Also.. cotto doesn't deal well with pressure or people who stand there ground in general. It's an odd weakness for a pressure fighter. Look at his most impressive victories versus his losses or worst performances.
Torrez, Clottey, Margarito, Pacman
Impressive wins would be Foreman, Clottey, Mosley, Malignaggi, Judah
Foreman had more success when his knee gave than he did when he was bouncing. Judah had great success when he was looking to sit in the pocket and counter. WHen he folded to cottos pressure and began to move back, everything fell apart.
So really, cottos power and punch output is fine. The problem is he admires his work too much, and he doesn't do very well against guys who like to come foward ,or stand their ground as well.Last edited by intoccabile; 12-09-2010, 12:20 AM.Comment
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Mate it's simple, load up a fight of manny vs jmm 1 and run it beside a fight of manny vs dlh or manny vs hatton or manny vs cotto
tell me he is the same fighter, tell me his technique is the same.... and don't use the excuse that the opponent is custom made for him coz none of those fighters are even remotely the sameComment
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You can't see anything in those fights, as far as seeing him as a different fighter, as those guys were shot, damaged, bums. Hatton didn't belong in there, DLH put his life at risk by trying to fight (he'd have lost to anyone that night), and Cotto just isn't that good of a fighter.
Watching him face a good boxer in Marquez, then watching him beat up on zomebi-hoya and Ricky washed up Fatton is not a good matchup to analyze this new found greatness. These are guys who can't move or fight anymore.
Why have his last two fights been against fighters who are very slow and do not throw punches?Comment
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