I'm Sorry. KOSTYA TSZYU is NOT a HoF'er. His Best Win is Zab Judah!!

[Hankey]

What last comment?


It was at one point 5-1, then it got to 6:5 with Corrales as the favorite.

so it was 6-5, thanks for humiliating your credibility again

[Hankey]

OK.. I gotta hop. Meetings in the a.m.

I'll see you chubby b!tches later.

very manly to put your adversary on ignore in the middle of a discussion gina

[Dan...]

so it was 6-5, thanks for humiliating your credibility again

Surely Kev's boxing credibility is long gone?

[STREET CLEANER]

gatti ain't in

He aint in but there is talks of putting him in cause what he did for Atlantic City with his fights.

[BennyST]

This has some real gems in it. "At one point it was at 5-1"

Ok, so what were the odds when the fight actually happened? 6-5.



I've always been interested by how these guys always talk about Corrales as this massive pound for pound win. He was undefeated and was in the P4P lists. Do people know who he had actually beaten at that stage to get there? I remember people laughing about it at the time because he had beaten no one. Compared to Zab at the time, he had done jack ****. As I said beofre, it's so so easy to look back and make of everything what you want, but when you actually remember what was going on, it's a very different story.

A win over Derrick Gainer was his best win by far. In fact, if you wanna talk about comparative wins, I'd say Zab is pretty damn easily as good as Corrales. People just like Corrales more.

Anyway, the point being that at the time, Zab was a huge and very unexpected win and had shown his mettle by beating guys like Junior Witter, Micky Ward, Terron Millett etc and others along with a six or seven defense title reign and beating them to the point that people were calling him the next ATG.

It's all completely subjective and simply how you put it in perspective. You guys will argue black and blue Corrales as a massive amazing win and will then put down Zab saying "He never did anything!" and yet he ended up achieving more than Corrales. Pretty easy to do that ****.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

What I want to know is what happened for Chico to go from 5/1 to 6/5

[crillz]

I think Kostya Tszyu belongs in the hall of fame, with wins over prime Judah and Hurtado and as many defrenses as he made he deserves it. plus he beat Chavez, Urkal, Mitchell (when he was in his prime) and Gonzalez and he gave him his 2nd loss in 45 fights, I don't know if you know but Miguel Angel Gonzalez was a beast and he also beat the shit out of Jesse James Leija when Leija could still ****. I think he deserves it..

[Sin City]

If you are referring to the biggest name on Tszyu's record... that would be Roger Mayweather, not Judah.

[Motofan]

Guys, please don't turn this into another silly Floyd-Pac thread.

I do NOT feel that Zoo is a HoF'er. I think his career achievements are very overrated. In fact, during his "reign", I never saw the greatness that people were thrusting upon him.

Almost every guy in the HoF either has...

1) Win or WinS against other prime HoF guys (Pacquiao)
2) A period of unquestioned dominance at his weight class (Hopkins)
3) Highly competitive bouts with other HoF-level guys (Oscar, Shane)

In my humble opinion, I don't know that Kostya Tszyu meets any of those criteria for me.

Plus, there are too many guys on the current docket that I consider to have been better than Zoo during Zoo's era (Barrera, Hopkins, Winky, Morales, Pacquiao, Mayweather, Mosley, Holyfield, Lewis,Jones, Delahoya, Toney, etc, etc) .

I did not feel that Zoo should have been ranked #3 p4p when Hatton beat him...and I don't think that he should be in the HoF.

Heck, I think Jose Luis Castillo was a better all around fighter.


...but I will still show up in June.

Stop watching boxing.

[Dan...]

Stop watching boxing.

Do you know for a fact that he has started?